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Re: Figuring Out How Much a Hybrid, Diesel, or Small Car Will Save

by Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 22, 2008 at 10:02 PM

Mike hunt wrote:
> It appears you guys know little about nuclear power, coal and current 
> environmental laws, if THAT is what you believe.   Not all nuke plans
use 
> enriched fuel, electricity produced by anthracite coal produces LESS CO2

> than a plant generating electricity with fuel oil and the current
bituminous 
> power plants could easily collect CO2 IF current environmental laws did
NOT 
> prevent the plant operators from installing the equipment to do so. 
Fifty 
> two percent of the electricity produced in the US is produced by coal. 
A 
> simple change in the stupid environment laws, to allow them to install
the 
> proper equipment, would reduce their CO2 output by half   ;)
> 
> 
> 
> Do a search, would be advice.
> 
> 
> 
> "mjc13<REMOVETHIS> @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote in message 
> news:CaIuj.4855$0%3.263@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Retired VIP wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:01:11 GMT, "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"
>>> <"mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jesse wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Well, not exactly what I had in mind, I was thinking more of
hybrids
>>>>>> being able to reduce Carbon emissions and that you cant put a price
on
>>>>>> that. That sort of stuff and no mass murder involved.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Ever wonder what the extra $5000 or so hybrids cost is for?
>>>>> Largely energy.
>>>>> To properly energy cost factor a car or anything else you must
include 
>>>>> all inception to salvage.
>>>>
>>>>   OTOH, the *source* of the energy needs to be considered in
measuring 
>>>> the carbon footprint. Hydro or nuclear (not that I sup****t that)
power 
>>>> have little carbon emissions associated with them, but coal-fired
power 
>>>> plants are another story entirely. There are a lot of factors that
need 
>>>> to be considered, not just two or three.
>>>
>>> Nuke plants DO have a carbon footprint and it's pretty big.  While
>>> it's true that the plant doesn't put out any carbon while running it
>>> needs enriched uranium to operate.  Enriching the fuel requires a lot
>>> of electricity.  The concentration of uranium in the ore is very low
>>> which requires a lot of processing (compared to coal).  So getting the
>>> fuel for a nuke plant will result in more CO2 output than just using
>>> coal to generate the same amount of power.
>>>
>>> Nuke plants really only make sense when you need them to generate the
>>> material needed to make bombs.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>
>>    That illustrates my point about complexity, anyway. Thanks for the 
>> correction. Do you have any figures to sup****t the 'worse than coal' 
>> claim, though? Coal puts out a *lot* of CO2... 
> 
> 
Not sure of your facts but it wouldn't surprise me one bit.  If 
something makes sense the greeenie weenies will be against it.

Jeff DeWitt
 




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Re: Figuring Out How Much a Hybrid, Diesel, or Small Car Will Sa
"Mike hunt" <  2008-02-19 18:24:04 
Re: Figuring Out How Much a Hybrid, Diesel, or Small Car Will Sa
Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWit  2008-02-22 22:02:27 

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