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Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road

by Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 1, 2008 at 07:21 PM

"Free Lunch" wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:11:25 -0600, in misc.trans****t.urban-transit 
> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
> <fqcd9e$5ur$2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:
>> Free Lunch wrote:
>>> On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:46:58 +0900, in misc.trans****t.urban-transit 
>>> Miles Bader <miles@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in <87tzjq46zh.fsf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:
>>>> Jym Dyer <jym@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>>>>> =v= Of course, massive oil subsidy is the only reason that
>>>>> wasteful trucking has been competitive (false-economical) with
>>>>> rail in the first place, but rising oil costs are starting to
>>>>> make some things undeniable.
>>>> There's also the massive subsidies to maintain the highway system in
the
>>>> first place -- you constantly see complaints that trucking is
>>>> responsible for 90% of road wear, but pays very little of thath cost.
>>> Trucks pay for a share of the road through taxes or tolls, but they do
>>> have to share with others.[...]
>> Does a 5-axle truck with a gross weight of 80,000 pounds pay 5000 to 
>> 10,000 times as much as a sedan in taxes and tolls? If not, the truck
is 
>> getting subsidized on how much fatigue damage it causes to the
pavement.
> 
> As I understand it, that particular claim has not been shown to be true.

Really? So all the pavement design methods used by engineers in the US 
are wrong to a gross extent? That I refuse to believe.

> If the tax needs to be changed, by all means lets make it fair to
> everyone, but that does not excuse the foolishness of our legislatures
> in letting taxes fall so much that we cannot take care of our roads.

Well, in terms of geometric design and traffic through-put, the truck is 
only the equal to a few cars which makes the equivalent cost harder to 
calculate, but in terms of pavement damage we are talking fact, not made 
up numbers.

-- 
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 




 17 Posts in Topic:
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
Miles Bader <miles@[EM  2008-03-02 03:46:58 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-03-01 13:28:47 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-03-01 14:11:25 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-03-01 16:01:53 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0  2008-03-01 19:21:43 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-03-01 20:31:41 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
"George Conklin"  2008-03-01 16:06:54 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-03-01 16:02:49 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
Martin Edwards <big_ma  2008-03-02 15:16:49 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-03-02 09:35:01 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
"Amy Blankenship&quo  2008-03-02 10:26:34 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
Martin Edwards <big_ma  2008-03-03 17:33:19 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
Martin Edwards <big_ma  2008-03-03 17:32:15 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
Jym Dyer <jym@[EMAIL P  2008-03-02 11:58:10 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
James Robinson <wascan  2008-03-06 01:37:02 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
Free Lunch <lunch@[EMA  2008-03-05 20:04:51 
Re: when 70% of drivers are banned from the road
James Robinson <wascan  2008-03-07 16:07:48 

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