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Re: Cell phone driving = drunk driving

by Bolwerk <bolwerk@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 3, 2008 at 02:40 PM

Jack May wrote:
> "Bolwerk" <bolwerk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:13se1qtr7vsh25a@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Martin Edwards wrote:
>>> Bolwerk wrote:
>>>> Jack May wrote:
>>>>> "Bolwerk" <bolwerk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>>>>> news:13sb6mlp11mb923@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> Miles Bader wrote:
>>>>>>> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>>>>>>>> Pat who? wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Bike riders complaining about car drivers is also particulary
>>>>>>>>> hypocritical.[...]
>>>>>>>> That statement makes no sense at all.
>>>>>>> Very little of what Pat has said on this thread has made any
sense...
>>>>>> Pat is Conklin Lite.  More intellectually honest perhaps, but still

>>>>>> has a kneejerk dislike for cities.  Which makes you wonder why he 
>>>>>> trolls transit and urban planning groups.
>>>>> Gee since most people now live in the suburbs, I guess most people 
>>>>> don't like large cities either.
>>>> So what?  I don't really care what most people like.  I just find it
odd 
>>>> that trolls feel the need to come in here and berate people who
aren't 
>>>> even harming anyone.
>>> As I have asked before, why are they here?  There are plenty of
carhead 
>>> groups.
>> I understand the carhead thing.  They're probably just brainwashed by 
>> advertising or ideology.  Jack is a particularly extreme example of
both, 
>> probably.
> 
> We are here to keep liars like you from constantly trying to reinforce
your 
> lies with constant repetition.

Liars?  *You* are the liar, and you're also an asshole of accusing me of 
being one.  While you have never caught me lying, you just like claiming 
I'm lying because it gives you a feeling of moral superiority, which 
compensates for your complete failure to reason or offer even a remotely 
plausible alternative to whatever claims you object to.

As a matter of fact, your rhetorical strategy has also been that 
*constant repetition* of accusations that your opponents are lying, 
stupid, laggard, inferior, or whatever else (at a risk of instantiating 
Godwin's Law, I won't mention who else used that strategy).

> Brainwashed!!  More of your totally ignorant crap.

What totally ignorant crap?  That I don't buy into your retro-futurist
myths about trans****tation?  Or your authoritarian tracking device
fantasy?  Or that I simply DON'T CARE that you don't like transit?

> The vast majority of cars is a result of technology evolution with
people 
> selecting trans****tation that meets their need (cars) and rejecting 
> trans****tation (transit) that does not meet their.

Not that you'd listen to the million reasons I can offer you why that
narrative about technological evolution is specious at best, but who
even cares?  Why are any of the transit lines I take on a daily basis
devalued by the fact that a majority of people use a car?

> It is ignorant nonsense like what you just put out that we are here to 
> correct.   Look at the results of technology evolution in figures 2 and
3 
> of:

I've never seen you correct anything.  You certainly never corrected 
yourself when you've been wrong.

Ignorant nonsense like what?  Do you even know what "ignorant" means?

What about figure 2?  What does figure 2 do to make you look less 
idiotic?  Figure 3?  And why even use the U.S. as an example?  The U.S. 
trans****tation infrastructure is hardly the most sophisticated.

> http://phe.rockefeller.edu/TIP_trans****t/trans****t.pdf

That URL didn't prove your point the last times you you posted it either.

> It is obvious from history that technology evolution is what created the

> present structure of society with the car being dominant.

No, it is not obvious, nor is it even meaningful.  Automobile dominance 
is a matter of carefully crafted policy.  That may or may not be a good 
thing, but evolution hardly plays into it.

Of course, I don't know why you care, since it doesn't even help your 
argument.  The  dominance of product A doesn't mean product B is useless.

 From the sounds of it, you're taking a few axioms in that article and
treating them as canon.  So much for being "scientific."

> Present society IS NOT the result of brainwa****ng or any other
conspiracy 
> that incredibly ignorant people like you believe in. 

First of all, before accusing anyone of lying again, I suggest you stop
making up strawmen to attack.  I didn't say "present society" is "the
result of brainwa****ng."  I said your fanaticism is the product of
brainwa****ng.  My claim had nothing to do with the idiocy of society as
a whole, and only to do with the idiocy of Jack May.  So, please stop 
lying about what I said, okay?  Thanks!

What conspiracy?  Commercials are designed to alter people's opinions.

A combination of I guess that and ideology has completely blinded you to 
reason, and made you a bitter, angry little usenet troll like Marcie 
Kortlander, Conklin, and Pat.
 




 40 Posts in Topic:
Re: Cell phone driving = drunk driving
Miles Bader <miles@[EM  2008-02-27 21:49:48 
Re: Cell phone driving = drunk driving
Bolwerk <bolwerk@[EMAI  2008-02-27 12:15:08 
Re: Cell phone driving = drunk driving
"Jack May" <  2008-02-27 16:22:47 
Re: Cell phone driving = drunk driving
Eric Vey <junker@[EMAI  2008-02-27 21:56:52 
Re: Cell phone driving = drunk driving
Bolwerk <bolwerk@[EMAI  2008-02-28 01:09:54 
Re: Cell phone driving = drunk driving
Martin Edwards <big_ma  2008-02-28 08:35:54 
Re: Cell phone driving = drunk driving
Bolwerk <bolwerk@[EMAI  2008-02-28 14:10:29 
Re: Cell phone driving = drunk driving
"Jack May" <  2008-03-01 20:19:42 
Re: Cell phone driving = drunk driving
Martin Edwards <big_ma  2008-03-02 15:19:48 
Re: Cell phone driving = drunk driving
"Amy Blankenship&quo  2008-03-02 10:22:41 
Re: Cell phone driving = drunk driving
Bolwerk <bolwerk@[EMAI  2008-03-03 14:40:42 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Nobody <jock@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-07 01:48:00 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Pat <groups@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-05 16:46:18 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Bolwerk <bolwerk@[EMAI  2008-03-05 20:19:42 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Eric Vey <junker@[EMAI  2008-03-05 21:23:26 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Bolwerk <bolwerk@[EMAI  2008-03-05 23:28:26 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Martin Edwards <big_ma  2008-03-06 08:16:48 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Bolwerk <bolwerk@[EMAI  2008-03-06 08:29:35 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Martin Edwards <big_ma  2008-03-06 08:15:31 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Eric Vey <junker@[EMAI  2008-03-06 03:46:05 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Bolwerk <bolwerk@[EMAI  2008-03-06 08:31:16 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Pat <groups@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-06 10:22:40 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Pat <groups@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-06 10:25:40 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Bolwerk <bolwerk@[EMAI  2008-03-06 14:03:42 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Pat <groups@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-06 12:37:46 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Bolwerk <bolwerk@[EMAI  2008-03-08 01:34:36 
Re: Cell phone driving = drunk driving
Miles Bader <miles@[EM  2008-03-03 10:19:05 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Miles Bader <miles.bad  2008-03-05 12:15:00 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Eric Vey <junker@[EMAI  2008-03-05 02:06:31 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Bolwerk <bolwerk@[EMAI  2008-03-05 11:30:52 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
"George Conklin"  2008-03-05 16:11:04 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
James Robinson <wascan  2008-03-05 22:10:15 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
"George Conklin"  2008-03-05 19:15:22 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
James Robinson <wascan  2008-03-06 00:24:22 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Martin Edwards <big_ma  2008-03-06 08:08:18 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Bolwerk <bolwerk@[EMAI  2008-03-05 20:22:16 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Martin Edwards <big_ma  2008-03-06 08:09:22 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Martin Edwards <big_ma  2008-03-06 08:07:01 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Bolwerk <bolwerk@[EMAI  2008-03-09 15:06:31 
Re: High population density is good for bikes
Miles Bader <miles@[EM  2008-03-06 10:05:22 

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