Re: High population density is good for bikes

Pat pooped:
> On Mar 5, 11:30 am, Bolwerk <bolw...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Eric Vey wrote:
>>> Miles Bader wrote:
>>>> Pat <gro...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>>>>> Woohoo.  Where I live
>>>> You don't count, Pat.
>>>> -Miles
>>> One would think that Pat and Jack would want the city slickers to use
>>> less gas. That way the demand would go down and thus the price for
them.
>>>  So I really don't understand their whole line of reasoning.
>> Pat just seems to like to whine, but Jack apparently thinks transit
>> systems should be shut down and everybody should be forced to drive.
>> Therefore, "city slickers" would be using more gas and wasting more
>> energy.  Then, no one ever accused Jack of making sense.
> 
> It's not that I just want to whine, it is that I think that many of
> the posts are extraordinarily ego-centric and arogant.  You want to

Yours, for instance?

> live in some manner and think that everyone else should live in that
> manner too.  There is a feeling of moral snugness and superiority that
> is appalling.  But you think that your position somehow gives you the
> ability/desire to regulate/legislate the actions of others -- ban
> this, outlaw that, do away with that thing over there.

That doesn't describe me or most of the people in the transit forums I 
frequent, other than perhaps a few ideologues (mainly Jack May and 
George Conklin).

> Go live your lives and enjoy them, but don't get snobbish and think
> that just because you want to ride a bike and live in a high density
> environment and eat bean sprouts and sing coombyya that everyone else
> wants to.
> 
> Go sell your car.  Go buy a parking ramp and tear it down so you can
> build an empire on organic gardening.  Fool yourself into thinking
> electricity is clean.  Go ahead and do it.  Just stop the foolishness
> of thinking that what you like is what everyone likes.

You aren't even referring to anybody.  You're just conjuring up a 
stereotyped caricature and attacking it.