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Re: Top Gear reminder

by "Rich B" <richard.brookmanNOSPAM@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 24, 2008 at 07:30 PM

Austin Shackles typed:
> On or around Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:57:19 +0100, "Rich B"
> <richard.brookmanNOSPAM@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> In the interests of fairness (which I am not inclined to do for the
>> Pious, but I'll try), a friend has one and gets 53 mpg average in
>> normal commuting driving.  For a medium-sized saloon car, that isn't
>> bad going, although it's hardly going to save the planet.  In
>> real-world conditions, I doubt if the M3 could come close to that.
>
> yeah, but a modern mid-sized diesel could easily do that and not have
> the same issues with batteries and zinc, or was it nickel?

Something like a diesel Corsa will easily better that, but it's a much 
smaller and lighter car.

> something like the BMW 530D say...

Austin jests, I feel.  About 35 with a light right foot.

> or a mundano.  Not sure those aren't both "bigger" cars than the
> pious.

My Mundaneo will make around 42-43 mpg in commuting conditions, easily 
beaten by "real-world" figures from the Pious, but not too bad.  On a 
flat-out run round a track like they tried on TG, I would guess not too
far 
below 30, way better than the 17-odd they recorded for the Toymota.  It
will 
give me 30+ mpg towing a caravan at 70.  It is a size up from the Pious, 
too.  Like I said, it's horses for courses.

> The Pious is a load of eco-wank, IMHO.  Costs a fortune to build and
> in the real world it's hardly any better on economy than the more
> normal cometition.

Agreed.  If I were going to be totally fair, I would say it was
considerably 
more economical (by about 15-20% over an equivalent saloon car), but the 
overall effect on the environment is totally unclear, due to the battery 
issues you mention.  But a saviour of the planet it certainly ain't,
however 
many Hollywood stars buy one.

> they'll pursue hydrogen which is
> basically a non-farter instead.

Typo corrected.

-- 
Rich B

Take out the obvious to email me.

A life?  Cool - where can I download one of those?
 




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Top Gear reminder
"Nige" <nige  2008-06-22 17:06:20 
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"Lee_D" <new  2008-06-22 18:05:26 
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Mark Solesbury <markso  2008-06-22 19:37:06 
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"Brian Colwell"  2008-06-22 18:58:50 
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.mother <nospam@[EMAIL  2008-06-22 20:09:32 
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EMB <embtwo@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-23 08:07:24 
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"William Black"  2008-06-22 21:12:35 
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.mother <nospam@[EMAIL  2008-06-22 21:35:49 
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Ian Rawlings <news06@[  2008-06-22 21:42:21 
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Steve Taylor <steve@[E  2008-06-22 22:11:34 
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EMB <embtwo@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-23 10:31:39 
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.mother <nospam@[EMAIL  2008-06-23 09:58:04 
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EMB <embtwo@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-23 23:41:21 
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"William Tasso"  2008-06-24 04:51:00 
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SteveG <_@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-06-22 23:27:22 
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"Rich B" <ri  2008-06-23 18:04:45 
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"Lee_D" <new  2008-06-23 19:29:22 
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"Rich B" <ri  2008-06-23 20:42:53 
Re: Top Gear reminder
SteveG <_@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-06-23 18:54:39 
Re: Top Gear reminder
"Rich B" <ri  2008-06-23 20:57:19 
Re: Top Gear reminder
Austin Shackles <austi  2008-06-24 18:37:22 
Re: Top Gear reminder
"Rich B" <ri  2008-06-24 19:30:46 
Re: Top Gear reminder
Austin Shackles <austi  2008-06-27 10:34:09 
Re: Top Gear reminder
Dougal <Dougal@[EMAIL   2008-06-27 14:17:30 
Re: Top Gear reminder
Steve Taylor <steve@[E  2008-06-27 16:52:46 

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