"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "David M" <NOSPAM@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Fri, 11 May 2007 06:31:41 -0700, flrealbot rearranged some electrons
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>> Your web site is not only lame, but has incorrect information on it.
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>> 351C and 351W are completely different engines.
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> I haven't been to the website, but everybody knows that the 351
Cleveland
> and the 351 Windsor are as different as night and day. They are
completely
> different. That's C-O-M-P-L-E-T-E-L-Y.
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> Wow, I can't believe somebody put together a site (or even a measely
page)
> that says these two engines share anything beyond displacement.
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> I forget which is which, but I recall that one is loosely based on the
> 289 -- its a small block motor -- and the other is based on the 429 --
> which is a large block (I think the Cleveland is the small block and the
> Windsor is the large block). Obviously one would have to have a longer
> stroke as compared to the other, causing the long stroke motor to run at
> lower RPMs. The long stroke will produce more torque at the low end, but
> will top out much sooner.
Close but no cigar.
The 351W is based on the original "Challenger V8" aka small block Ford
that
was originally 221 CID then was released as a 260 289 302 in various
states
of tune. The 351W is a higher decked version of this design.
The 351C is not based on the 429 but was developed at a similar time and
share similar design traits and share somethings like the distributor. The
351C is also referred to as a 335 series engine family. The 429/460 is
called the 385 series engine family. The 429/460 was also called the
"Lima"
following the engine plant city name tradition.
It uses a canted valve head design not unlike a BB Chevy head. The
Cleveland was produced for the model years '70 to '73. The 400 was based
on
the same design but had a higher deck height ( akin to the 302 to 351W
relation****p) after '73 only the high deck 400 block was produced. A
destroked version of this motor was released as the 351M (some say
Modified
others say Midland?)
Just to really confuse things the BOSS 302 was a 4 bolt Windsor block ( a
leftover from the tunnel****t 302 from the ill fated 1968 Trans Am season)
It
used a 351C STYLE head that was a unique BOSS 302 part.
Confused??? Why do you think so many people play it safe and stick with
SBC's!
StuK
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