RCE wrote:
> "David M" <NOSPAM@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:464599c3$0$4703$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Sat, 12 May 2007 02:15:19 +0000, Jeff Strickland rearranged some
>> electrons to form:
>>
>>> "CobraJet" <shedding@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> news:110520071905550567%shedding@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> In article <3Y81i.427$b67.111@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Jeff Strickland
>>>> <crwlr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wow, I can't believe somebody put together a site (or even a measely
>>>>> page)
>>>>> that says these two engines share anything beyond displacement.
>>>> They have the same motor mounts, bellhousing pattern, starters,
>>>> distributor cap, balancers, flywheels, and lifters.
>>>>
>>>> However, the dickhead with the website is still a lazy, stupid,
>>>> freeloading bastard.
>>>>
>>> I guess I'll take your word for it. I thought the Cleveland and
Windsor
>>> power plants were completely different in each of the areas you just
said
>>> they are common.
>>>
>>> I remember as a kid (with my father in car business) that when a car
was
>>> listed with a Ford 351, the first question was, Cleveland or Windsor?
The
>>> performance specs were different, and the physical size was different.
Or
>>> that's what I remember thinking at the time.
>> No, they are externally similar (so that they can be used in the same
>> cars).
>> However they are completely different inside. The 351W is based on the
>> small-block. The 351C is not.
>>
>> --
>> David M (dmacchiarolo)
>> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled
>> T/S 53
>> sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 7 days 23:07
>>
>
> My hazy memory might be bad but I seem to recall that the "C" was
desirable
> to build up because it could be bored. The "W" was bored as much as it
> could be .... in fact I think I remember there were some problems with
it
> due to "thin walls".
>
> Also ... one (forget which) had a version setup for truck use, IIRC.
>
> RCE
>
>
Actually the C was the one that had the thinner cylinder walls, as
compared to the older W blocks anyway. This is according to the old Ford
Performance book I have here. I'm not so sure if Ford lightened their
castings for the Windsor in the later years or not.
The Cleveland was a nice engine to build for drag racing because of the
huge intake ****ts in the 4V heads. Too bad they messed up the exhaust
****ts by dog legging them down at a relatively sharp angle. Before the
days of aftermarket heads for the Cleveland, people used to mill about
1.25" of the ****t away and install what was called a high ****t plate.
This basically removed the dogleg in the ****t and significantly
increased the exhaust flow for these heads. The Boss 302 head had
basically the same problem.
Chris
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