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Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!

by CobraJet <shedding@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 10, 2007 at 02:45 AM

In article <46bbc98f$0$502$815e3792@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Big Al
<sal1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> "CobraJet" <shedding@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:090820071450571983%shedding@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > In article <46bb46be$0$502$815e3792@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Big Al
> > <sal1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > > "CobraJet" <shedding@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > > news:090820070707138195%shedding@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >    I used to launch the Olds off idle, like 1400 rpms or so. Back
then
> > > > I was concerned about running out of pump shot, even though I had
a
> > > > late cam on the Holley. Of course, this was a street race car and
> > > > reaction times were not critical. The Torino is mucho heavier than
the
> > > > Mustang or Maverick (or as powerful), so I may not creep as badly.
I
> > > > don't know what's inside that C6 at all. I've heard some
companies'
> > > > brakes for a C6 are not too swift. What's your opinion?
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > CobraJet
> > >
> > > Your 460 is close to what I had and what's in Pat's Mustang now.
Don't
> think
> > > it won't make power. It will.
> > >
> > > Just to refresh your memory. My Maverick was 10 to 1. D0VE heads
with
> stock
> > > valves, exhaust cleaned up. Comp Cam's hydraulic stick, Torker II
intake
> > > with a 800 Holley. At the time Pat's $1,000 wonder was a 429 with
D0VE
> heads
> > > with big intakes and a mild professional ****t job. His had a solid
> lifter
> > > Schnider cam, Stealth intake and a 800 Holley. Both had cheap roller
> rockers
> > > and MSD ignition. They were nothing special. Pat's car was about 450
> pounds
> > > heavier than the Maverick. They ran about the same.
> >
> >    Yep, those do sound pretty close to what I have.
> > >
> > > My Maverick had an "out of the box" $2300 Hughes C6 with an Art Carr
> brake.
> > > The brake slipped. Engage the brake, bring up the r's and the car
would
> > > creep forward. Pat and I pulled the transmission and took it to
Sharp's
> > > transmission. He looked it over and said it looked new so he sent
the
> brake
> > > to Art Carr. They checked it and said it was perfect. Never slipped
> after
> > > that. BTW: When the brake was creeping, both the trans brake and the
> foot
> > > brakes together would not hold the car at stall.
> >
> >    I'm going to go through the trans just to see what's in there. It
> > has zero miles on it, but I need to make sure good parts are there.
> > Judging by the parts on the rest of this Galaxie, I'm going to bet
this
> > is not a low dollar piece. However, I'd at least turn it into a manual
> > VB.
> >
> > >
> > > Pat originally had a C6 in the 67. The brake was so bad he made an
> adapter
> > > and put a TH-400 in it with a Hipster brake. The 400 is many years
old
> and
> > > is rock solid.
> >
> >    Yes, I remember that Chevy trans when I was down there. I believe I
> > broke out in hives.
> >
> > >
> > > Pat's Mustang seems to be more consistent 60' wise if I keep the r's
low
> at
> > > launch. Under 3,000 RPM. I think it sometimes slips the tires when I
> launch
> > > it wide open. My OT 73 Nova runs identical 60 foot times if I punch
it
> at
> > > 1,000 RPM or brake torque it. So I launch at 1,000. But with no
trans
> brake
> > > it's hard to cut a good light.
> >
> >    Well, we'll see what happens. I've seen some pretty good lights on
a
> > s****tsman tree from foot brakes.
> >
> > >
> > > The Torker II is a good choice if you already have one. Otherwise,
use a
> > > Weiand Stealth. 460's are not high RPM engines and a mild one does
not
> need
> > > an open plane intake.
> > >
> > > Al
> >
> >    I have both intakes, new. As mentioned, the Weiand has a rep for
not
> > clearing the hood, or maybe leaving too little carb clearance. The
> > stock Brougham (this car) flat hood can be used to make a Shaker hood
> > for the '70 GT, so I'm not going to cut it up. If I put the car on a
> > diet, a glass hood with scoop will make way for the Weiand, but then
> > I'd have to figure out what to do about paint-matching that charcoal
> > metallic.
> >
> >    I picked up a Strange 3.06 S-case, unused and cheap from a private
> > party. So I'll spool that and get some fresh axles made. I have a back
> > brace for the housing. The only major parts I have left to buy,
besides
> > tires, are the carb and fuel pump. I'm leaning towards a 950HP, with
an
> > eye on building a 545 later. I'm thinking I should be able to clear a
> > 10.5 tire.
> >
> > -- 
> > CobraJet
> 
> Have a 950 HP on my 10 second OT street car. They are rated at a
different
> vacuum level than regular carbs. Look into it before you go shopping.
Was
> surprised to find out about this AFTER I bought mine:( Think they are
rated
> like the two barrels.

   Hmm. Where is this info on the Web? This is a new one on me.

> 
> If you have both intakes, just measure them. The Torker II fit under the
> Maverick hood with an air filter. Yes I run all my cars with a 14 X 3"
air
> filter.

   Well, there is no "stock" 460 engine height on a Maverick, so maybe
yours sat lower. From what I understand, the 460 engine mounts will
bolt to the Cleveland frame mounts in my car. Not sure if there is any
diff at all from a factory 385 car. 

> 
> We use the Holley pump that comes with a regulator. Think it's called
the
> Blue Max. You can get them new on eBay and Craig's list. NHRA rules are
> stiff about gas hose. We use 1/2" Aluminum line. That SS braided fuel
hose
> is crap. Make that expensive crap. We're going to the push on stuff.

   I never checked, but if this car came with the 3/8" line instead of
the "small block" 5/16ths, I'll probably just start out with that.

> 
> Al # 35
> 
>

-- 
CobraJet
 




 54 Posts in Topic:
Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-07 16:25:20 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Big Al" <sa  2007-08-07 20:32:22 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-08 05:29:49 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Big Al" <sa  2007-08-08 10:22:45 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"L.W. \(Bill\) Hughe  2007-08-08 14:45:54 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-08 21:58:44 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
Roger M <rnddmauck@[EM  2007-08-08 21:13:30 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
Stan Weiss <srweiss@[E  2007-08-08 22:23:17 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-09 03:07:44 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
Stan Weiss <srweiss@[E  2007-08-09 00:08:10 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-09 14:08:13 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Big Al" <sa  2007-08-08 23:41:06 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-09 14:07:12 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Big Al" <sa  2007-08-09 09:54:57 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-09 21:50:58 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Big Al" <sa  2007-08-09 19:13:06 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
Stan Weiss <srweiss@[E  2007-08-09 22:42:42 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-10 02:45:07 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Big Al" <sa  2007-08-09 23:50:33 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Whole Lotta Tom&quo  2007-08-10 18:13:44 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-11 02:39:31 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Whole Lotta Tom&quo  2007-08-11 04:19:20 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-11 06:27:32 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-11 06:42:02 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Big Al" <sa  2007-08-09 23:51:42 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-10 07:42:21 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-10 07:53:22 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
Stan Weiss <srweiss@[E  2007-08-10 09:55:39 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-11 02:59:23 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
Stan Weiss <srweiss@[E  2007-08-10 23:42:55 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Whole Lotta Tom&quo  2007-08-11 04:10:36 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Whole Lotta Tom&quo  2007-08-10 17:30:47 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-11 02:52:28 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Whole Lotta Tom&quo  2007-08-11 04:27:50 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Big Al" <sa  2007-08-10 23:20:23 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-11 06:31:46 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Big Al" <sa  2007-08-11 09:33:26 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-11 18:16:03 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
Kevin Bottorff <kevyNO  2007-08-09 16:26:33 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-09 21:03:00 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
Kevin Bottorff <kevyNO  2007-08-10 13:13:45 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-11 02:54:18 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
Jason <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-08-11 21:17:20 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
Jason <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-08-14 17:44:15 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-15 02:26:37 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Big Al" <sa  2007-08-16 00:45:58 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-17 06:42:56 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
Jason <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-08-17 00:16:11 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-17 06:47:03 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
Jason <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-08-20 13:51:07 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
"Whole Lotta Tom&quo  2007-08-20 16:54:22 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
Jason <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-08-21 19:31:18 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
one80out@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-08-09 08:08:31 
Re: Converter Suggestion - Big Al!!
CobraJet <shedding@[EM  2007-08-09 21:08:00 

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