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Re: Lightweight starters

by Steve <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 6, 2007 at 02:28 PM

Julian wrote:
> The car is a Jensen, with the 440 and A727 gearbox. (Both standard)
> 
> I've got a problem and I don't know what to do next.
> 
> My old original starter was on its last legs, so I got a new one from
the 
> chap on e-bay.
> 
> It looks like this:
> 
> http://www.440source.com/starters.htm
> 
> 
> I fitted it this afternoon and when I turned the key it just made a
nasty 
> noise with no cranking. I pulled it off again and checked it up against
the 
> old one and all the dimensions looked OK - 10 tooth pinions correct
diameter 
> etc and it spun up on the bench just fine. I replaced it and tried
again, 
> still no luck.
> 
> After some serious head scratching I removed the tin ****eld from the
bottom 
> of the bellhousing so I could see the pinion, and with the wife turning
the 
> key I could see the pinion move up to the ring gear and rotate but not 
> engage - I could even push a screwdriver up behind the pinion and (with
the 
> power off) try and engage it manually, all I could manage was about
1/10th 
> inch of engagement at best. The ring gear is in OK condition and I
rotated 
> the engine a bit by hand so that a perfect segment of ring gear was 
> presented to the pinion. The starter motor is sitting squarely on the 
> housing.
> 
> So, off with the starter (again!) and I checked pinion throw with the
old 
> Chrysler starter. Here's the crux of the matter I think, the new item
has 
> only 1/2" of pinion throw, while the Chrysler one has 3/4". The
lightweight 
> starter's pinion is almost fully out and spinning before it tries to
engage 
> with the ring gear, and therefore doesn't manage it.
> 
> I'm at a loss as to what to do. Has anyone experienced this problem
before? 
> Nobody in the Jensen club seems to have had any bother with these
starters 
> before
> 
> TIA Julian.
> 


Is the starter you bought an actual Nippondenso of one of the same 
models that was offered on Chrysler cars from 1998 until the last 360 
was built in circa 2003, or is it a strictly aftermarket model, from 
some place like Summit or Jegs?

I've never had ANY problem swapping between Nippondenso and Chrysler 
starters on 440s, 383s, and 318s equipped with A-727 or A-904 
transmissions, but I have ONLY used Nippondenso starters taken from 
junkyard Chrysler vehicles, never aftermarket speed-shop starters. Since 
Nippondenso starters are used on everything from Toyotas to Chryslers to 
Mitsubi****s and Mazdas, I'm a little leery of any model that didn't 
actually come off a Chrysler drivetrain.
 




 9 Posts in Topic:
Lightweight starters
"Julian" <jp  2007-06-19 08:35:10 
Re: Lightweight starters
dodge-him <dodgeboy888  2007-06-19 04:29:57 
Re: Lightweight starters
Joshua <skinner.joshua  2007-06-25 12:08:07 
Re: Lightweight starters
"Julian" <jp  2007-07-01 20:41:38 
Re: Lightweight starters
"Bryan" <bry  2007-07-01 20:37:42 
Re: Lightweight starters
Joshua <skinner.joshua  2007-07-02 01:04:26 
Re: Lightweight starters
"Bryan" <bry  2007-07-06 18:54:11 
Re: Lightweight starters
Steve <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-07-06 14:33:40 
Re: Lightweight starters
Steve <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-07-06 14:28:07 

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