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Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.

by Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 3, 2008 at 09:38 AM

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:02:07 +1100, Atheist Chaplain blathered on in :

> "E. Newnes" <enewns45@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:43gaq3hehcr1vgju1m8prhet33qv98cq46@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:21:20 GMT, "Atheist Chaplain" <abuse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>> he is saying what were all thinking, your a complete nutter who need
>>>>> to go and buy a new/better foil beanie to keep the "GovCo" mind
>>>>> control rays out of your thin skulled tiny mind.
>>>>
>>>> That's alright then - I wondered if he was trying to suggest in some
>>>> oblique way that he was ****witted enough to think these disparate
>>>> and carefully targeted cable damage incidents were mere coincidence.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Toby
>>>
>>>your honour, I rest my case !!
>>>
>>>--
>>>"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color." Don
>>>Hirschberg
>>
>> The Iranian Oil Bourse was supposed to open this week. Still think it
>> is a mere coincidence?
>>
>>
>>
> My Birthday was last Friday, do you still think it was a coincidence
> 
> **** me!! people see conspiracy in every bloody bird **** !! Get a life
> people.
> 
> Do you know how difficult it would be to deliberately hit a submarine
> cable with a ****ps anchor??

Good grief - you assert coincidence, and then proceed to argument on that 
basis.
Those of us that posted on the matter of why it's been done are far 
closer to the mark than you can ever be. Sad. 
I would NOT have posted anything on the matter at all if I believed there 
was even a glimmer of coincidence possible. Hell, I considered not doing 
so into aus.cars fleetingly but I did so  because it could possibly 
effect Internet users here and when I did post it our aus.cables were 
apparently still intact but may not have been spared the attack - for 
that's what it undoubtedly was.
There's also the matter of Internet being a defined enemy of GovCo which 
I've posted many times about right here - so in terms of relevance AND in 
terms of being consistent in my attacks of the ForcesOfEvil you prefer to 
ignore for whatever reason - off you go on the coincidence trail. 
Goodonya.
Now, back to the Anchor Bull**** part of the story... and it should be 
noted that the Flag cable guys have only ever said that the cables are 
most often damaged by anchors - NOT that they were in this case.

Yup.
It's a piece of piss - they're marked on charts.

In this case, there were no less than 4 cables done over. I think. 
There's some debate over the last one seemingly cut because the stuff 
connected to those cables is reasonably smart at re-routing traffic and 
if there are problems and routing options available it becomes a matter 
of packet route tracing to figure out what's going on. Of course that's 
known - but publication of the information seems close to pointless at 
this stage, and would make bad business sense if the matter didn't result 
in a complete and obvious outage.
If the comms lot cop even one of these events a year, they think they're 
having a bad year. Do just a little research you'll see that there are a 
heap of cable ****ps about to play with the stuff, AND you'll find that 
most that drop the cables into the water have trenchers to bury cable a 
couple of metres away from trawl nets and other minor annoyances in 
shallow waters where encounters with carelessly used anchors are almost 
likely - even though the odds are highly in favour of the cable 
companies. Obviously these encounters include small ****ps anchors - given 
the qualifications and chart-reading abilities of non-professional 
skippers. It's also a matter of physics - the average trawler would be 
flipped over if it snagged a modern cable - they're of interesting 
construction and designed to defeat anything they're likely to encounter 
in the normal course of events.

So, to get a big enough yank on the cable, the ****p concerned has to 
first anchor in the demonstrably wrong place and *then* use the anchor as 
a plough. In case you haven't guessed, anchors are designed to stay put. 
If they don't hold, it's a wise move to seek better holding rather than 
allow your vessel to travel about at the whim of the currents and wind 
tearing up everything it encounters with a major league piece of foundry-
work and ferinstance ending up on a beach at Newcastle... 

And then there's the issue of what the Insurance Shysters will do to 
anyone whose vessel is involved when they can sheet blame home. And they 
can. Right about now, there are some - several, probably - extremely 
expensive-to-maintain-and-run ****ps heading for the middle east 'at 
speed' to repair those cables. And then there's the cost of lost 
telecommunications and general data traffic to consider.

At any rate my bet is that examination of infa-red and visual satellite 
data will show absolutely nothing in terms of surface ****ps with deployed 
anchors near cables at snip-time, which will be *very* accurately 
defined. 
The only good news is for the marine life in the areas of cable damage. 
The mongrels that did it won't have been running active sonar while they 
sneaked about doing the deed.


And One More Thing.
It will be a cold day in hell before the cable companies tell us 
*truthfully* the exact nature of the damage when it's found. I reckon if 
we're told at all, it will be after the Insurance Shysters and the rest 
have turned over every rock looking for the perps. So, expect an answer 
some time in second decade of the century. 


As for the only coincidence manifested in this thread so far - happy 
birthday, ****wit:-)


-- 
Toby
 




 20 Posts in Topic:
OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-02-02 02:36:21 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
E. Newnes <enewns45@[E  2008-02-02 03:29:56 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
Geqo <a@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-02-02 23:20:40 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-02-02 13:09:21 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-02-02 22:46:18 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-03 16:13:27 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-02-03 00:36:51 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-02-03 01:21:20 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
E. Newnes <enewns45@[E  2008-02-03 04:19:20 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-02-03 19:02:07 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
E. Newnes <enewns45@[E  2008-02-03 09:20:47 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-02-03 22:27:02 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
E. Newnes <enewns45@[E  2008-02-04 04:34:30 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
Paul Saccani <saccani@  2008-02-03 22:33:47 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
E. Newnes <enewns45@[E  2008-02-04 04:47:51 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-02-03 01:34:04 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-03 16:08:38 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-02-03 09:38:14 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-02-03 11:30:08 
Re: OT - undersea cable problems - 4 at once.
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-02-03 12:17:19 

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