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Re: Why can't they....

by the_dawggie <the_dawggie@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 4, 2008 at 02:45 AM

On Feb 4, 2:34 pm, "Noddy" <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "the_dawggie" <the_dawg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
> news:835cee0a-f55c-4e87-9ceb-
>
> > I learnt that on the ***mins diesel list many years
> > ago. And it is very very true.
>
> No it ain't.

It is. I can give you name of the engineeer. Dan Hepner.

> Diesel engines get more of an internal hiding than any SI engine could
hope
> to, which is precisely why diesel engine components are vastly heavier
and
> more solid than those of your average SI engine.

Yes, agree. Nothing wrong with that.

> > The type of fuel, meybe not. I can burn petrol in my
> > diesel engine up to around a 40% point (don't try diesel
> > in your petrol engine - it might end up cactus)
>
> Believe me, I wouldn't ever think about it :)

Can I watch if you try it?

> > The way the engine works alters a lot of stuff.
>
> The way the engine works might, but the fuel it burns with all else
being
> equal doesn't do diddly.

See above.

> > Do I have to worryabout spark plugs and ignition system ... no. Do I
> > have to worry about timing or fuel quality to the point
> > the thing pings itself to death... no.
>
> Um, yeah actually.

Nope. If I run over 40% petrol it ****s itself and refuses to start.
A bit of diesel or kero fixes that.

Mind you, it just won't work if I get the timing belt
one notch out. This is a good thing.

> Diesels are fussier about fuel on average than a petrol engine, and
they'll
> knock themselves to death pretty quickly if the mix isn't right. Water
is
> also a big problem for diesels in that a small amount will shut your
average
> diesel down completely and cause the entire fuel system to need priming
> whereas it'll just make your average SI engine run rough.

Not true. A diesel will cope with a bit of water. Not through the air
intake.

Water will take out the injectors.

> > It either starts or it doesn't.
>
> Like any other engine.

I don't have to **** with it to make it to.

> > Do I have to worry about stale fuel - no.
>
> No, it already stinks to the bejesus.

Stale petrol? yep makes me barf. Specially
after a few drinks the night before.

> > Can I make my own fuel - yes.
>
> Is it worth the hassle? No :)

Depends, Its a "because I can" thing and it works better than the
bought stuff..

> > The engine is a very different design to petrol. I spent
> > the early years of my life suffering with SI engines (still
> > have a couple) I hate them.
>
> We know.

Had it with petrol or SI ****ers. Been there, done that.

> However, I'd add that given your mental state and hatred for some things
> that are water off a duck's back for most people, it'd be faior to
assume
> that your hatred for SI engines is a *tad* over done.

I'd give you a re****t on a 130 HP Chrysler boat engine. You dont want
to know..

> > A ***mins 6BT would ****e all over your NA 8 cylinder petrol
> > or LPG stuff.
>
> That's a pretty big call considering I never mentioned any particular
V8.

That's OK. Don't need to.

> You're right though. One would certainly cost more money, make more
noise
> and smell *way* worse than any V8 that I can think of.

Today smelt a 4 cyl petrol motor in a new car. Almost barfed. Stunk
out the
*entire* car park in the apartment building with sulphur fumes. My
turbo
diesel does not bother me in that regard.

> > I'd need to see it to believe it.
>
> I think that may be a lot of your troubles. You ain't seen it, but
believe
> it to be true anyway.

I'm not ever owning another SI engine again. You can - I don't hate
your decision to do so.

I won't touch one with a ten foot pole, and need to something about
getting rid of my dirt bike and replacing it with something CI.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
 




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