"Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>"Mad-Biker" <madbiker666@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(baffles).com.au> wrote in message
>> "jackbadger56" <castle56@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> It seems that if a manufacturer can make a car run on E85,
>>> they've earned an official 'green' tag. AFAIK cars running on
>>> this still produce greenhouse gases (is that right?), there are
>>> stuff-all places selling the ****, a tank seems to take you half
>>> the distance, and if everyone switched over to it there'd be no
>>> sugar/corn/potatoes/alpaca goats or whatever they're currently
>>> deriving it from left to eat, and the only way to make up the
>>> shortfall of farming land would involve clearing on a massive
>>> scale! Another bloody red herring!!
>> yeah, but its renewable, that's what they were after.
>> If look at India, they have vehicles than can run on 100% ethanol, and
>> have somehow modified regular vehicles to run 50% ethanol
>He's got a point about the impact it will have on farming though.
>The World Health Organisation (and UN generally) have expressed
That's be the FAO, wouldn't it?
>similar concerns. When the price of oil makes it more profitable
>for farmers to grow oil crops rather than food crops, guess what
>most of the worlds arable land will be turned over to.........
Biofuels don't *need* to impinge negatively upon food production.
They can in fact enhance it by producing by-products such as
fertiliser and stock-feed. And large amount of biofuels can be
produced using only marginal land and saline water unsuitable for
crops. It's called aquaculture.
Depending on location and the choice of algal species, most
countries between the tropics and a coastline can produce
substantial volumes of biodiesel, consuming both the sewage waste of
their towns and the fuel-burning power stations' CO2 directly from
the flue.
The real problem isn't the lack of know-how; that has been around
since the 1970's.
The problems are _political_. Some with Malthusian ideals and
ignorant followers of false prophets would prefer pre-industrial
"civilisation" where people died from what are now preventable
diseases, starved due to local famine and the inability to move food
and people around, froze to death when it was cold for lack of
available heating after they've burnt down all the local trees, died
of thirst because of powerful mechanical pumps, died on becalmed
seas because of lack of wind to drive their sailing ****ps, ...
It's a fatal, romantic fantasy.
Mis-direction of resources to the tilting at windmills; because it
feels good; is a waste.
Developing production methods for production of fuels from
complementary technologies; and not from competitive ones to food
should be the priority.
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