"jackbadger56" <castle56@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Feb 15, 1:38 pm, "RogerM" <Rog...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> "jackbadger56" <castl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>
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>> > On Feb 14, 4:21 pm, "RogerM" <Rog...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> I've still been thinking about this [[snip]]
>>
>> > no you ****ing haven't.
>>
>> Oh sorry, but I have and still am.
>>
>> >> What if the bad whites of the day did nothing to take the children
>> >> from
>> >> the
>> >> squalor of their upbringing?
>>
>> > What sort of squalor existed before white settlement?
>>
>> You don't know your history very well if you think they were exempt
from
>> sickness, which was mostly fatal.
>
> You don't know your history well if you believe all sickness was
> mostly fatal and had absolutely no home-spun yet often very effective
> remedies.
>
>>
>> >> What if the children had of died from sickness and diseases?
>>
>>
>>
>> > Are you referring to the diseases introduced due to settlement?
>>
>> That's always the same old story.
>
> Right. Note to everyone here that only the latest whiz-bang flash
> space-age answers are acceptable.
>
>>
>> >> What if those children who were raped and brutalised then committed
>> >> suicide?
>>
>> > What if grog hadn't been introduced into their culture?
>>
>> Not all drink grog.
>
> Not all abuse children/act like criminals/drain the system etc
> etc......
>
>>
>> >> What if the giving of the gift of a second chance in life never
>> >> happened?
>>
>> > It was only settlement that ****ed up their first chance.
>>
>> So where would they be today if the whites stayed away
>
> Probably still living off the land and generally minding their own
> business. This may be a cliche and difficult for you to believe/
> understand, but they had a vibrant, relatively cohesive, and proud
> culture before we arrived.
>
>>
>> >> What if the governments of the day were really "trying" to help?
>>
>> > Utterly beside the point.
>>
>> No it's not, it's the whole ****ing point of the topic. If you really
>> believe the whites were told to do this through some "ethnic cleansing"
>> bull****, then it's no wonder you can't see the other side.
>
> The other side. Right. You are as guilty as anyone in refusing to
> accept opposing views.
>
> Thing is, ALL the issues we're currently trying to deal with here are
> to do with "their" integration into "our" society. Whether or not
> early intervention was meant with good intentions or not doesn't
> change the fact it *didn't ****ing work* and made things a whole lot
> worse. Indigenous people are so primative by our standards, yet we
> throw money at them (which they don't really understand) and build
> unsuitable "houses" for them to our own liking, and basically dictate
> to them how we are going to solve "their" issues?
Cool, so lets give them nothing and let them sort it out for themselves.
They were here for 40,000 years and they achieved what exactly? Ok, move
over, our turn.
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