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Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Coriolis

by Dan Bloomquist <public21@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 9, 2008 at 03:00 AM

daestrom wrote:
> 
> 
> But if we don't let it move north (constrained by the 'track'), then 
> whatever retarding force we are applying in the east-west direction is 
> translated to the north-south direction against the track.  These forces

> may increase friction in 'real' bearings, but let's assume 'ideal' 
> bearings so this addtional force against the shaft doesn't slow the spin

> of the gyro.

But, from what I understand, w does change as you alter the particle 
path of the rotor.

> The force against the track in the north-south direction 
> moves through zero distance so no work there.  But our retarding force 
> in the east-west direction is adjusted to allow the shaft to tilt west 
> at something less than one revolution per day so we have a force working

> through an angular displacement and have work.

There is a curious phenomena that if you force a gyroscope to move on a 
single axis, it will brake free, stop resisting the torque. I'd 
forgotten but now recall being there playing with a gyro.

See: Captive (one degree of freedom) gyro
http://www.upscale.utoronto.ca/IYearLab/gyroscop.pdf

But this seems to creates a contradiction to conservation of angular 
momentum. Spin up a gyro oriented to the poles which transfers momentum 
to the earth. Push it around on a single axis, broken free from torque, 
180 degrees. Now brake the rotor and you have added even more angular 
momentum to the earth!??

What am I missing?

Best, Dan.
 




 18 Posts in Topic:
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
Sam Wormley <swormley1  2008-03-06 04:23:57 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
"daestrom" <  2008-03-07 10:13:37 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
Dan Bloomquist <public  2008-03-07 15:48:19 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
"daestrom" <  2008-03-07 19:20:08 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
Dan Bloomquist <public  2008-03-08 03:53:17 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
"daestrom" <  2008-03-08 14:38:47 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
Dan Bloomquist <public  2008-03-09 03:00:00 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
"Robert J. Kolker&qu  2008-03-09 10:27:58 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
"daestrom" <  2008-03-10 20:11:37 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
"daestrom" <  2008-03-14 19:57:10 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
Bill Ward <bward@[EMAI  2008-03-16 12:48:09 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
Dan Bloomquist <public  2008-03-16 20:34:00 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
"daestrom" <  2008-03-09 15:38:37 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
Dan Bloomquist <public  2008-03-10 02:24:50 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
"daestrom" <  2008-03-10 20:09:09 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
Dan Bloomquist <public  2008-03-11 17:08:44 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
Sevenhundred Elves <se  2008-03-14 13:00:00 
Re: YES, mechanical perpetual motion generator based on the Cori
"daestrom" <  2008-03-08 14:15:30 

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