Re: Burnley Tunnel-vision

"Kev" <kevcat@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Although I've never travelled this Tunnel I doubt the hill climb out is 
> 7klms, what is it 300-400metres?

It's around a kilometer.

> how long does that bit take to climb?

It's not just the climb, which takes *ages* when some rockape is doing 
30km/h in the right lane, but the next few km of them being in the right 
lane getting up to speed when they come out.

> but it's fine for cars to be 3 lanes wide and not passing anyone
> singling out trucks again

Jeez, you have a real problem with this, don't ya?

What part of *all* slow vehicles should stay the **** out of the right
lane 
don't you get?

> so why is everyone singling out truck drivers?

Because on this particular stretch of road they're the worst offenders.
Cars 
go slow as well, but not nearly as slow as most trucks crawling up the
hill 
do.

> Again so why single out truck drivers?
> no one gets in here and complains about the slow cars that CAN maintain 
> speed but choose not to in the Tunnel

I think it would be a good idea to get down off your 18 wheeled high
horse, 
come down to Melbourne and drive the tunnel yourself to see what it is
we're 
talking about.

Oh, and do it in a car so you get to experience some complete tosser in a 
truck sitting 4 inches off your rear bumper on the way down to the bottom
of 
the tunnel :)

> so you think a truck driver should wait until there is room enough for
him 
> pull out and get up to the speed of the traffic before the traffic
catches 
> up so no one has to slow down,

That's not what I said, but you're close.

I don't expect them to have to use binoculars to see the next oncoming car

before they pull out onto the road, but by the same token I *also* don't 
expect them to approach a corner without ever intending to stop, take a 
*brief* glimpse to see if anyone's coming and then pull out while I'm
within 
50 meters of the truck fanging along at 70km/h when there's no one within 
*miles* behind me and they just can't be ****ed dropping back a couple of 
gears to stop.

If you think I'm making this **** up then let me tell you this happens 
almost *every* single time I drive down the main street from my house past

the nearby industrial estate.

> that is never going to happen on any major road at any time of the day, 
> even a 300 metre brak in traffic is never going to be enough, by the
time 
> the truck pulls out, turns and gets going cars are already climbing all 
> over the back of it

Well, that's really stiff ****, isn't it?

What's so special about trucks & truck drivers that they should be
afforded 
any treatment anyone else wouldn't normally get?

> Don't ever make the mistake of believing that I think of truck drivers
as 
> heroes, they are just not all the image that a lot of people have of
them
> No I live in a world where ****s are ****s no matter what they drive

You honestly could have fooled me.

You should spend some time in Melbourne. Down here finding a truck driver 
who *isn't* an idiot behind the wheel is a tall order indeed.

> It works both ways Noddy and you(and others here) haven't shown that you

> are any more accommodating than the truck drivers you are complaining 
> about

And how would you have me do that? If I said I was a decent driver and
acted 
in a sharing and responsible manner you wouldn't beleive me anyway (which,

as it happens, I generally do).

The point being that while there are arseholes in *all* types of vehicles,

truck driving arseholes stand out more than others simply by virtue of the

vehicle they drive. They're slow, large, heavy and take up a ****load of
the 
road, and a hell of a lot of the clowns who drive them think they're owed
a 
favour simply because they do.

> It certainly goes both ways, but clearly not in your view.

That's like one of those "I know you are, but what am I" things my 
neighbour's 5 year old kid comes up with.

--
Regards,
Noddy.