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Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??

by "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 26, 2008 at 02:35 PM

"Saab C900 Viggenist" <c900@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:fusk81$lmm$2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>
>>I suggest you do some more research. You have no idea of the real
figures 
>>in
>>this area.
>
> And not all of us have an 'abundance' of Luxeon, Cree, etc. LED devices
to
> experiment with. 8-)
>
> LED's are far superior light emitters than filament lamps because in
> filament lamps so little of the energy is converted to visible light,
and
> most is turned into infrared (ie. heat) - it's not as little as 1
percent
> though it is a small pro****tion.

**And again: BULL****! Repeating the same lie a second time, does not make

it the truth. LEDs are not that efficient. White LEDs are approximately
the 
same efficiency as halogens. Cree and other high end LEDs are around 4 X
the 
efficiency of halogens. IOW: Around the same efficiency as discharge
lamps.

>
> Even el-cheapo 5 cent LED's (not intended for use in automotive
> applications) convert almost all the electrical energy passing through 
> them
> into photons (ie. light),

**Again: BULL****! Good quality white LEDs are approximately the same 
efficiency as halogens.

 precisely how/where in the very narrow visible
> part of the EM spectrum depends on the doping, etc. of the material the
> functional part of the LED is made from (not including LED's designed to
> emit invisible light such as IR led's).
>
> So yes I know what I'm on about.

**Clearly, you do not.

 No I do not have any of these Cree devices,
> and I'm yet to find a luxeon device that can used a drop-in replacement 
> for
> any of the standard types of interior automotive lamps commonly used, or

> for
> any of the standard types of indicator or brake lights commonly used,
> without having to add additional electronics to drive them, and creative
> ways to heatsink them.
>
> So I don't think that the high-powered LED devices are really the answer

> for
> replacing the common types of small filament lamps used in most cars, at
> least not yet until they can be made into proper drop-in replacement 
> devices
> that don't need special 'interface' hardware, etc.

**It doesn't matter. I'm commenting on your ignorance WRT the efficiency
of 
LEDs vs. incandescents.

Trevor Wilson
 




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Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"David Z" <d  2008-04-23 12:55:13 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-23 15:37:27 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-23 22:36:14 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
qmod <qmod@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-24 09:39:48 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-24 00:53:59 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Bugalugs <bugalugs67@[  2008-04-24 16:34:46 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-25 08:54:24 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Bugalugs <bugalugs67@[  2008-04-25 22:31:21 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-25 12:59:08 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-25 10:46:06 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-04-25 01:48:34 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-25 14:27:13 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-25 04:55:20 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-25 15:12:47 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Scotty" <sc  2008-04-25 15:56:26 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-25 16:51:02 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Scotty" <sc  2008-04-25 19:27:03 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-26 00:04:36 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-25 16:10:00 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Bernd Felsche <bernie@  2008-04-26 01:50:17 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-25 06:57:12 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-25 17:09:11 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-04-25 18:27:15 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Scotty" <sc  2008-04-25 19:33:09 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-25 20:00:31 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-04-25 05:57:35 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Bernd Felsche <bernie@  2008-04-26 01:46:35 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"What The" <  2008-05-14 11:50:09 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-14 13:51:35 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"What The" <  2008-05-15 05:12:54 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-15 06:24:47 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"What The" <  2008-05-15 07:47:26 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-15 19:40:11 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-15 10:24:35 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-15 21:00:23 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-15 15:26:20 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"What The" <  2008-05-15 07:39:15 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
John McKenzie <jmac_me  2008-05-15 12:53:54 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-04-25 16:33:42 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-25 09:27:22 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-25 20:10:35 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-25 09:20:18 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-25 09:12:29 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-25 20:13:34 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-25 12:53:21 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-26 14:35:30 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"RogerM" <Ro  2008-04-24 08:35:58 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
OzOne   2008-04-24 09:04:28 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
^Jayden-Temuchin^ <bro  2008-04-24 14:49:48 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"David Z" <d  2008-05-03 05:57:12 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-03 16:02:30 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Kev <kevcat@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-04 02:39:37 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"David Z" <d  2008-05-08 07:47:15 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Kev <kevcat@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-09 00:48:55 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"David Z" <d  2008-05-08 15:17:14 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-09 11:52:06 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Kev <kevcat@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-09 00:50:33 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"David Z" <d  2008-05-08 15:14:41 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
Kev <kevcat@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-09 02:24:22 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"David Z" <d  2008-05-08 17:36:55 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Bobman" <no  2008-05-10 22:24:27 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
jackbadger56 <castle56  2008-04-23 16:12:17 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-24 10:30:50 
Re: Does the BF falcon have LED tail-lights??
"Dan--." <en  2008-05-08 23:22:29 

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