"Saab C900 Viggenist" <c900@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>
>
>>"Snapper" <snapper1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>> Trevor Wilson wrote...
>>>
>>>> **Get a GPS equipped 'phone on a plan. Stick it in a plastic bag.
>>>
>>> Why would you want to do that?
>>>
>>> GPS phones aren't that great. OK for hiking, perhaps like using a
Garmin
>>> Etrex. But for car navigation you need something that can be easily
>>> read,
>>> and heard, too. It needs to be able to be sat in a cradle. Do any GPS
>>> phones, such as the N95 do that?
>
>>**My 6110 Navigator does all that. And more. I can choose male of female
>>voice for directions. The N95 is better still. Bigger screen.
Nonetheless,
>>for these 54 year old eyes, I can read the maps without my reading
>>gl*****.
>>Of course, the Tom Tom is better, but is not as ****table.
>
> Except the phones still have one significant failing when using the
other
> functions in that they're phones, so to actually use them for a call you
> generally can't look at the screen at the same time as talking on a call
> without extra devices to help.
**Wrong. There's this new-fangled technology in 'phones now. It's called
'loudspeaker 'phone'. It's only been around since the 1970s, so you may be
unaware of it's existence.
>
> And before you mention it, phones with mp3 player capability are illegal
> to
> use with the music player going and 'bud' earphones in your ears when
> driving. 8-)
**Indeed. Not everyone who uses a mobile 'phone drives.
>
>>> Also, these phones aren't cheap and their plans less so. The N95 for
>>> example, requires a subscription in order to download the maps as you
>>> travel, and they also ac***ulate data usage which you also have to pay
>>> for.
>
>>**Bull****. Both Nokias come equipped with maps for all of Australia and
>>more (for free). My 6110 costs me $50.00/month with a **** load of
'phone
>>calls (over $200.00 worth).
>
> To which network(s) though?
**The maps are independent of the network.
All, or just one of the big-three? How much is
> the flag-fall per call? On short calls, that's just as expensive as the
> air-time charge and it's one of the key ways telco's make their profit
> flag-fall is a charge on top of air-time and applies for any 'answered'
> call, no matter how short. Could be 1 or 2 seconds, or very long, but
> flag-fall is still charged. It's quite a rort!
>
> How much do you get charged to send text messages and to send multimedia
> messages?
**I'm not 12 years old. Text messaging is the most nonsensical idea (99%
of
the time). It is expensive, ***bersome and just plain stupid. Adults, for
the most part, don't bother, unless they need to transfer specific
information.
Remember the N series are still basically phones, so regardless of
> what other fancy stuff they come with, at the end of the day they still
> require a telco to allow them to use their wireless network, or they're
> fairly useless.
>
>>> Whereas a standalone TomTom will have the latest maps and it won't
cost
>>> you any more in running costs. Sometimes they also have free updates.
>
>>**My 'phone costs me nothing, except 'phone calls. Even better, I can
>>carry
>>it easily in my pocket, use it to make 'phone calls, listen to music,
look
>>up address details and a whole bunch of other stuff.
>
> How much music storage?
**Plenty.
multiple-GB? How many GB? A mobile phone is still
> basically a talking device. Without a bluetooth headset or car kit you
> still
> can't talk at the same time as look things up on the phone.
**I have news for you: Blue-tooth apparatus is cheap and easy to buy.
Moreover, there is that pesky 'loudspeaker 'phone' thing.
Done your homework on LED efficiency yet?
Trevor Wilson
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