Trevor Wilson <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> Saab C900 Viggenist <c900@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>>> Snapper <snapper1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote
>>>>> Get a GPS equipped 'phone on a plan. Stick it in a plastic bag.
>>>> Why would you want to do that?
>>>> GPS phones aren't that great. OK for hiking, perhaps like using a
Garmin Etrex. But for car navigation you need
>>>> something that can be easily read,
Nope, at most you just glance at the current road name etc occasionally.
>>>> and heard, too.
Thats what you really want for most car use.
>>>> It needs to be able to be sat in a cradle.
I dont even do that with the TomTom, just sit it on the dash where its
a lot easier to enter a new destination on by picking it up than with it
stuck to the windscreen etc where its too far away for that.
>>>> Do any GPS phones, such as the N95 do that?
Yes, you can get a windscreen mount etc for the N95.
>>> My 6110 Navigator does all that. And more. I can choose male of female
voice for directions. The N95 is better
>>> still. Bigger screen. Nonetheless, for these 54 year old eyes, I can
read the maps without my reading gl*****.
>>> Of course, the Tom Tom is better, but is not as ****table.
The 720 is, because its nice and thin with a decent big screen.
Still small enough to go in the pocket fine.
>> Except the phones still have one significant failing when using the
other functions in that they're phones, so to
>> actually use them for a call you generally can't look at the screen at
the same time as talking on a call without
>> extra devices to help.
> Wrong. There's this new-fangled technology in 'phones now. It's called
'loudspeaker 'phone'. It's only been around
> since the 1970s, so you may be unaware of it's existence.
>> And before you mention it, phones with mp3 player capability are
illegal to use with the music player going and 'bud'
>> earphones in your ears when driving. 8-)
> Indeed. Not everyone who uses a mobile 'phone drives.
>>>> Also, these phones aren't cheap and their plans less so. The N95 for
example, requires a subscription in order to
>>>> download the maps as you travel, and they also ac***ulate data usage
which you also have to pay for.
>>> Bull****. Both Nokias come equipped with maps for all of
>>> Australia and more (for free). My 6110 costs me $50.00/
>>> month with a **** load of 'phone calls (over $200.00 worth).
The data useage is still a significant cost if you buy
the phone outright and use a sim where you only
pay for calls and dont have any fixed monthly cost.
>> To which network(s) though?
> The maps are independent of the network.
>> All, or just one of the big-three? How much is the flag-fall per call?
On short calls, that's just as expensive as
>> the air-time charge and it's one of the key ways telco's make their
profit flag-fall is a charge on top of air-time
>> and applies for any 'answered' call, no matter how short. Could be 1 or
2 seconds, or very long, but flag-fall is
>> still charged. It's quite a rort!
>> How much do you get charged to send text messages and to send
multimedia messages?
> I'm not 12 years old.
Plenty of adults with a clue use texts.
> Text messaging is the most nonsensical idea (99% of the time).
Only if you're a dinosaur.
> It is expensive,
Like hell it is.
> ***bersome
Wrong when you use the PC to send them.
> and just plain stupid.
Nope, its you dinosaurs that are that.
> Adults, for the most part, don't bother, unless they need to transfer
specific information.
And thats what most adults use the phone for, stupid.
>> Remember the N series are still basically phones, so regardless of
>> what other fancy stuff they come with, at the end of the day they
>> still require a telco to allow them to use their wireless network,
>> or they're fairly useless.
Wrong with the GPS function and a hell of a lot else besides.
I hardly ever use the telco's wireless network when using my N95.
>>>> Whereas a standalone TomTom will have the latest maps and it won't
cost you any more in running costs. Sometimes
>>>> they also have free updates.
>>> My 'phone costs me nothing, except 'phone calls. Even better, I can
carry it easily in my pocket, use it to make
>>> 'phone calls, listen to
>>> music, look up address details and a whole bunch of other stuff.
>> How much music storage?
> Plenty.
>> multiple-GB? How many GB?
8GB with the N95 8GB.
> A mobile phone is still basically a talking device.
Nope. In my case its basically a laptop I can put in my pocket.
>> Without a bluetooth headset or car kit you still can't talk at the same
time as look things up on the phone.
Wrong.
> I have news for you: Blue-tooth apparatus is cheap and easy to buy.
Moreover, there is that pesky 'loudspeaker 'phone'
> thing.
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