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Re: Who owns a GPS?

by the_dawggie <the_dawggie@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 1, 2008 at 12:51 AM

Rod Speed wrote:
> Atheist Chaplain <abused@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> "Doug Jewell" <ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:48185535$0$9716$5a62ac22@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>>>
>>>> how can aGPS help you to lock on to a satellite signal any quicker
>>>> ??
>>> It's inherent to the way GPS works. They constantly transmit a
>>> signal that includes the time according to the satellite's atomic
>>> clock, and also the satellite's postion. The receiver uses the time
>>> taken for the signals to reach it to determine the distance from the
>>> satellite. Using a bit of math, as long is it knows the distance to
>>> 4 or more satellites, and the position of those satellites, it can
>>> triangulate. But there's a catch - the satellite transmits this data
>>> at a fairly low bitrate, and so it takes 30 seconds for the whole
>>> data packet to be transmitted. In a best-case scenario, it will take
>>> 30 seconds to get the position information from the satellite, but
>>> if the signal is interrupted, corrupted etc during this 30 seconds,
>>> the GPSr doesn't know where the satellite is, so it can't compute
>>> the position accurately (or at all). This can cause delays in
>>> getting a fix of sometimes several minutes. Additionally, the
>>> satellite position data can be up to 2 hours old, and it takes
>>> approx 12 minutes for the entire catalog of satellite data to be
>>> downloaded. Until this is received, the accuracy of the fix can be
>>> poor.  To speed this process up though, and to get a more accurate
fix, some
>>> GPSr's allow you to download predicted satellite positions. Because
>>> the GPSr already knows the satellite position, it only needs the
>>> timecode from the satellite, not the whole packet. This allows a
>>> faster, and more accurate fix.
>>>> that's just another rort by the Telco's to extort money from the
>>>> gullible, I though aGPS was to download things like voice direction
>>>> and POI's (things that were intentionally stripped out of the Telco
>>>> supplied GPS software so they could then charge you for it at
>>>> exorbitant data transfer fee rates)
>>>>
>> while that may be true I have yet to see a time when my Navman GPS
>> doesn't see at least 5 satellites and currently my Tom tom phone
>> system is tracking 9 sats. Admittedly I'm not in the concrete jungle
>> of ****ney but even when I am, the only time I have lost signal was
>> when I was in one of the tunnels. to be fair I have never been
>> driving so fast in ****ney that the GPS couldn't keep up with my
>> position so I fail to see any benefit from aGPS.
> 
> The most obvious difference is seen with the time it takes for
> the GPS to decide its got enough info to tell you were to go
> next. Thats most noticeable when driving out of a parking area
> etc after the GPS has not been able to see any satellites for quite
> a while, usually because its been turned off for quite a while.
> 
> And aGPS isnt the only way to reduce that time too. 


Agreed - and it pisses me orf.
 




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Who owns a GPS?
Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-04-29 07:08:25 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-04-29 08:28:33 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-09 13:59:49 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-29 08:45:30 
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GrassyNoel <geracen@[E  2008-04-28 21:34:01 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-04-29 05:24:43 
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Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-29 20:46:21 
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"Rod Speed" <  2008-04-30 08:19:58 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-04-29 23:41:03 
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"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-30 10:06:24 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-04-29 14:35:44 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-04-29 05:34:49 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-29 19:45:59 
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Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-29 20:58:34 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-30 07:22:03 
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"Rod Speed" <  2008-04-30 07:45:40 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-04-30 09:33:41 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-04-30 00:15:11 
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Doug Jewell <ask@[EMAI  2008-04-30 21:17:08 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-04-30 23:55:29 
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"Rod Speed" <  2008-05-01 10:32:04 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-01 00:51:24 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-01 16:45:52 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-05-01 07:24:02 
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Horry <horacewachope@[  2008-05-01 16:38:25 
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"Rod Speed" <  2008-04-30 10:28:55 
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"Rod Speed" <  2008-04-30 10:33:52 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-04-29 23:57:47 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-04-30 10:16:04 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-30 10:26:45 
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Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-30 05:06:38 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-30 15:33:26 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-01 14:25:52 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-01 16:29:26 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-02 15:26:07 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-05-02 16:09:05 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-03 08:15:22 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-02 19:34:24 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-03 08:19:27 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-03 09:00:34 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-03 12:58:22 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-03 14:06:25 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-05 19:10:51 
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"Rod Speed" <  2008-05-02 06:40:14 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-02 21:13:34 
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Horry <horacewachope@[  2008-05-03 05:00:28 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-04-30 19:31:38 
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"Fraser Johnston&quo  2008-04-29 18:27:57 
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mrripcurl <mrripcurl@[  2008-05-02 09:57:30 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-09 14:02:07 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-04-29 11:27:58 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-04-29 14:43:57 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-04-29 18:28:25 
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"Rod Speed" <  2008-04-30 08:25:24 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-09 14:06:52 
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Doug Jewell <ask@[EMAI  2008-04-29 19:14:37 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-04-30 10:19:12 
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"Rod Speed" <  2008-04-30 08:23:14 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-04-30 19:23:54 
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"Rod Speed" <  2008-04-30 20:16:34 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-01 06:52:09 
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Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-29 01:41:35 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-04-29 12:41:24 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-04-29 13:00:02 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-04-29 13:27:10 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-04-30 16:24:26 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-04-30 20:15:36 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-05-01 11:06:44 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-01 17:36:24 
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"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-29 13:09:01 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-04-29 13:27:41 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-04-29 13:45:09 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-04-29 13:32:48 
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"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-29 18:57:44 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-04-30 11:53:08 
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"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-30 12:48:00 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-29 03:14:53 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-04-29 13:34:27 
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"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-29 19:04:35 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-04-30 11:42:17 
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"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-30 12:45:05 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-04-30 13:55:25 
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"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-30 15:58:36 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-04-30 16:11:32 
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"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-30 17:15:21 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-01 06:48:51 
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Doug Jewell <ask@[EMAI  2008-05-01 18:50:33 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-05-01 11:11:42 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-05-01 11:08:57 
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"Rod Speed" <  2008-04-29 14:43:08 
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"Klompmeester"   2008-05-04 23:55:26 
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"David L. Jones"  2008-05-05 08:21:30 
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"Klompmeester"   2008-05-06 07:39:02 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-05 08:59:10 
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"Klompmeester"   2008-05-06 07:42:20 
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"David L. Jones"  2008-04-29 19:32:10 
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kreed <kenreed1999@[EM  2008-05-01 02:09:30 
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Bob Parker <bobp.delet  2008-05-01 21:26:39 
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"David L. Jones"  2008-05-05 18:50:47 
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"Rod Speed" <  2008-05-06 13:34:13 
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"Klompmeester"   2008-05-08 06:22:22 
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"David L. Jones"  2008-05-05 23:10:36 
A little of initial topic but...
"Scotty" <sc  2008-04-29 18:57:22 
Re: A little of initial topic but...
"George W. Frost&quo  2008-04-29 09:59:10 
Re: A little of initial topic but...
"Fraser Johnston&quo  2008-04-29 19:04:02 
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Doug Jewell <ask@[EMAI  2008-04-29 19:23:34 
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Polly the Parrot <flat  2008-04-29 20:43:58 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-04-29 20:47:24 
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"Rod Speed" <  2008-04-30 08:17:17 
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Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-04-30 19:40:54 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-04-30 20:16:54 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-04-30 21:58:55 
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a9x5l <a9x5l@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-03 06:21:02 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-05 19:10:52 
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a9x5l <a9x5l@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-06 01:25:26 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-05-06 06:37:47 

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