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Re: Who owns a GPS?

by "Atheist Chaplain" <abused@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 1, 2008 at 07:24 AM

"Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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>
> "Atheist Chaplain" <abused@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:RF7Sj.6489$ko5.3857@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "Doug Jewell" <ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>> news:48185535$0$9716$5a62ac22@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>>>
>>>> how can aGPS help you to lock on to a satellite signal any quicker ??
>>> It's inherent to the way GPS works. They constantly transmit a signal 
>>> that includes the time according to the satellite's atomic clock, and 
>>> also the satellite's postion. The receiver uses the time taken for the

>>> signals to reach it to determine the distance from the satellite.
Using 
>>> a bit of math, as long is it knows the distance to 4 or more
satellites, 
>>> and the position of those satellites, it can triangulate. But there's
a 
>>> catch - the satellite transmits this data at a fairly low bitrate, and

>>> so it takes 30 seconds for the whole data packet to be transmitted. In
a 
>>> best-case scenario, it will take 30 seconds to get the position 
>>> information from the satellite, but if the signal is interrupted, 
>>> corrupted etc during this 30 seconds, the GPSr doesn't know where the 
>>> satellite is, so it can't compute the position accurately (or at all).

>>> This can cause delays in getting a fix of sometimes several minutes. 
>>> Additionally, the satellite position data can be up to 2 hours old,
and 
>>> it takes approx 12 minutes for the entire catalog of satellite data to

>>> be downloaded. Until this is received, the accuracy of the fix can be 
>>> poor.
>>> To speed this process up though, and to get a more accurate fix, some 
>>> GPSr's allow you to download predicted satellite positions. Because
the 
>>> GPSr already knows the satellite position, it only needs the timecode 
>>> from the satellite, not the whole packet. This allows a faster, and
more 
>>> accurate fix.
>>>> that's just another rort by the Telco's to extort money from the 
>>>> gullible, I though aGPS was to download things like voice direction
and 
>>>> POI's (things that were intentionally stripped out of the Telco 
>>>> supplied GPS software so they could then charge you for it at 
>>>> exorbitant data transfer fee rates)
>>>>
>>
>> while that may be true I have yet to see a time when my Navman GPS 
>> doesn't see at least 5 satellites and currently my Tom tom phone system

>> is tracking 9 sats. Admittedly I'm not in the concrete jungle of
****ney 
>> but even when I am,
>
> And your navman and tom tom have slightly better GPS antenna, and don't 
> have a 3G transmitter sitting right next to them causing interference.
>
>> the only time I have lost signal was when I was in one of the tunnels.
to 
>> be fair I have never been driving so fast in ****ney that the GPS 
>> couldn't keep up with my position so I fail to see any benefit from
aGPS.
>
> I've turned mine off, but definitely saw quicker lock times for the
short 
> period I had it active.
>
> -- 
> Kwyj.
>

My Tom tom is in my phone :-)
I have an N80i with the Tomtom for symbian installed and I use a $12 Holux

Bluetooth GPS receiver to get the signal, it works a treat, I tested it
out 
in ****ney a while ago and the only gripe I have with it is its route 
selection, the Navman ****s all over it in that regards IMHO.

-- 
"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
Don Hirschberg
 




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Who owns a GPS?
Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-04-29 07:08:25 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-04-29 08:28:33 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-04-29 08:45:30 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-04-29 05:24:43 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-04-30 00:15:11 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-04-29 23:57:47 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-04-30 10:16:04 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-05-02 16:09:05 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-03 08:15:22 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-02 19:34:24 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-03 08:19:27 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-03 09:00:34 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-03 12:58:22 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-05 19:10:51 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-02 21:13:34 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-04-30 19:31:38 
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"Fraser Johnston&quo  2008-04-29 18:27:57 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-09 14:06:52 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-04-29 13:27:41 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-04-30 11:53:08 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-04-30 11:42:17 
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"Mr.T" <MrT@  2008-04-30 12:45:05 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-04-30 16:11:32 
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Doug Jewell <ask@[EMAI  2008-05-01 18:50:33 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-05-01 11:08:57 
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"Klompmeester"   2008-05-04 23:55:26 
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"David L. Jones"  2008-05-05 08:21:30 
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"Klompmeester"   2008-05-06 07:39:02 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-05 08:59:10 
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"Klompmeester"   2008-05-06 07:42:20 
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"David L. Jones"  2008-04-29 19:32:10 
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kreed <kenreed1999@[EM  2008-05-01 02:09:30 
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Bob Parker <bobp.delet  2008-05-01 21:26:39 
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"David L. Jones"  2008-05-05 18:50:47 
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"Rod Speed" <  2008-05-06 13:34:13 
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"Klompmeester"   2008-05-08 06:22:22 
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"David L. Jones"  2008-05-05 23:10:36 
A little of initial topic but...
"Scotty" <sc  2008-04-29 18:57:22 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-04-29 09:59:10 
Re: A little of initial topic but...
"Fraser Johnston&quo  2008-04-29 19:04:02 
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Doug Jewell <ask@[EMAI  2008-04-29 19:23:34 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-04-29 20:47:24 
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"Rod Speed" <  2008-04-30 08:17:17 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-04-30 20:16:54 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-04-30 21:58:55 
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a9x5l <a9x5l@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-03 06:21:02 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-05 19:10:52 
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a9x5l <a9x5l@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-06 01:25:26 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-05-06 06:37:47 

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