Re: OK - I'm pissed ('lux brakes)

Toby Ponsenby wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:19:41 +1000d, Daryl Walford Blathered on
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>> Jason James wrote:
>>> "Daryl Walford" <dwalford@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:02:16 +0800d, Klompmeester Blathered on
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>>>>>> "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2:13 pm, the_dawggie <the_dawg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Cant they get this right????
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They design a vehicle that is fairly ferpect.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The brakes suck. Today yet again need to service them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Replaced just about everything so far - the design is wrong. No
>>>>>>>> it's not due to the vehicle being turbocharged.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yawn, I'll go back and see if I can make it work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ... again.
>>>>>>> Ok, did another master cylinder bleed. Top pedal now, still think
>>> there
>>>>>>> is something wrong there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or somewhere. I'll see how it goes over time.
>>>>>> The master system is ****ed you ****ing dickhead.
>>>>> Not just a Toyota speciality, but they do dabble in MS ****ups on
>>>>> their 4WD chariots of the dawggie Hi-Lux era. Like Bland Cruisers,
>>>>> ferinstance - also blighted with the same common fault set.
>>>>>
>>>> Dawggies Lux is about 18yrs old so a bit of maintenance like a mc
>>>> overhaul is to be expected, I'd hardly consider something wearing out
>>>> after that length of time to be a problem. My Hilux just clicked over
>>>> 120,000klms and its still on the OE brakes pads and rear brake shoes,
>>>> at the current rate of wear they will last about 200,000klms which is
>>>> nothing to complain about.
>>> The Camry's front disc pads were original and were replaced at
>>> 195.000ks. Car 13 yrs old.
>> I wonder why Toyota can make brakes that last so long and most other
>> manufacturers can't?
>>
>>
>>
>> Daryl
> 
> Believe it or not - corruption...sort of..
> If you KNOW you're going to be a long-term supplier, you can build in 
> quality that you just wouldn't bother with if your contract position was

> chancey and was only as good as your price for the next round bids.
> Which in turn means your stuff IS the best, which re-enforces your 
> position, and so on.
> 
> Think Nippondenso-Toyota, and Calsonic-Nissan.
> These are extremely long-lived 'associations' in the scheme of things.
> But Who knows - T and N might even be major shareholders of those 
> companies:-)
> 

Thats very likely, Toyota are known to buy into suppliers business's, 
its happened here a few time that I know of.


Daryl