Re: OK - I'm pissed ('lux brakes)

"the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Daryl Walford wrote:
: > Scotty wrote:
: >> "Daryl Walford" <dwalford@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 >> : Jason James wrote:
: >> : > "Daryl Walford" <dwalford@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 >> : >> Toby Ponsenby wrote:
: >> : >>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:02:16 +0800d, Klompmeester Blathered on
: >> : >>> inVZOdnXW6D8syPYjVnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: >> : >>>> "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: >> : >>>> news:07a91c1c-e284-4b65-
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 >> : >>>>> On Apr 28, 2:13 pm, the_dawggie <the_dawg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
: >> : >>>>>> Cant they get this right????
: >> : >>>>>>
: >> : >>>>>> They design a vehicle that is fairly ferpect.
: >> : >>>>>>
: >> : >>>>>> The brakes suck. Today yet again need to service them.
: >> : >>>>>>
: >> : >>>>>> Replaced just about everything so far - the design is wrong.
: >> No it's
: >> : >>>>>> not due to the vehicle being turbocharged.
: >> : >>>>>>
: >> : >>>>>> Yawn, I'll go back and see if I can make it work.
: >> : >>>>>>
: >> : >>>>>> ... again.
: >> : >>>>> Ok, did another master cylinder bleed. Top pedal now, still
think
: >> : > there
: >> : >>>>> is something wrong there.
: >> : >>>>>
: >> : >>>>> Or somewhere. I'll see how it goes over time.
: >> : >>>> The master system is ****ed you ****ing dickhead.
: >> : >>> Not just a Toyota speciality, but they do dabble in MS ****ups
: >> on their
: >> : >>> 4WD chariots of the dawggie Hi-Lux era.
: >> : >>> Like Bland Cruisers, ferinstance - also blighted with the same
: >> common
: >> : >>> fault set.
: >> : >>>
: >> : >> Dawggies Lux is about 18yrs old so a bit of maintenance like a
mc
: >> : >> overhaul is to be expected, I'd hardly consider something
wearing
: >> out
: >> : >> after that length of time to be a problem.
: >> : >> My Hilux just clicked over 120,000klms and its still on the OE
: >> brakes
: >> : >> pads and rear brake shoes, at the current rate of wear they will
: >> last
: >> : >> about 200,000klms which is nothing to complain about.
: >> : >
: >> : > The Camry's front disc pads were original and were replaced at
: >> 195.000ks.
: >> : > Car 13 yrs old.
: >> :
: >> : I wonder why Toyota can make brakes that last so long and most
other
: >> : manufacturers can't?
: >> :
: >> :
: >> :
: >> : Daryl
: >>
: >> I dont believe that you can make a set of front brake pads last
almost
: >> 200,000kms.  Im convinced that at some stage they have been replaced
: >> during a service at least once.  Well, unless you keep using the car
: >> in front to stop you that is.  ;o)
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> Either that or the driver does all highway driving and slows down a
km
: >> before he has to holding up all traffic behind them.
: >>
: > When I bought my Hilux it had done 55,000klms so its unlikely they
were
: > replaced before I bought it, I've serviced it myself so I know the
pads
: > haven't been changed.
: > Its now done a bit over 120,000klms and is due for a service so I'll
: > check the pads again this weekend, I had the wheels off a couple of
: > weeks ago when I fitted my off road tyres and the pads still look well
: > under half worn.
: > I do do a lot of hwy driving and I am usually gentle on the brakes
which
: > does explain why they are lasting so long to a certain extent.
: > My wifes 01 Corolla still had its OE pads when we sold it at
85,000klms
: > and they looked like they still had lots of life left in them.
: > I've owned lots of different makes and model cars and the Toyotas are
: > the only ones that have brake pads that last this long.
:
: No, not had a lot of luck with the 'lux
: brakes, neither has friend with Smurf.
:
: Seems a weak point.
:
: Everything else is ferpect.
:
: My brakes work, I would not say brilliant.

They do work a lot better with standard wheels and tyre widths though. I
did notice a more spongy 
feel when I upgraded (Im my eyes) to different tyres. Stock 225/60/15's to
10.5x31s BFG ATs