Re: OK - I'm pissed ('lux brakes)

Scotty wrote:
> "Daryl Walford" <dwalford@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> : Scotty wrote:
> : > "Daryl Walford" <dwalford@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> : > : Jason James wrote:
> : > : > "Daryl Walford" <dwalford@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> : > : > news:c9KdnQ1dFY-gWYjVnZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> : > : >> Toby Ponsenby wrote:
> : > : >>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:02:16 +0800d, Klompmeester Blathered on
> : > : >>> inVZOdnXW6D8syPYjVnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> : > : >>>
> : > : >>>> "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> : > : >>>> news:07a91c1c-e284-4b65-
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> : > : >>>>> On Apr 28, 2:13 pm, the_dawggie <the_dawg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> : > : >>>>>> Cant they get this right????
> : > : >>>>>>
> : > : >>>>>> They design a vehicle that is fairly ferpect.
> : > : >>>>>>
> : > : >>>>>> The brakes suck. Today yet again need to service them.
> : > : >>>>>>
> : > : >>>>>> Replaced just about everything so far - the design is
wrong. No it's
> : > : >>>>>> not due to the vehicle being turbocharged.
> : > : >>>>>>
> : > : >>>>>> Yawn, I'll go back and see if I can make it work.
> : > : >>>>>>
> : > : >>>>>> ... again.
> : > : >>>>> Ok, did another master cylinder bleed. Top pedal now, still
think
> : > : > there
> : > : >>>>> is something wrong there.
> : > : >>>>>
> : > : >>>>> Or somewhere. I'll see how it goes over time.
> : > : >>>> The master system is ****ed you ****ing dickhead.
> : > : >>> Not just a Toyota speciality, but they do dabble in MS ****ups
on their
> : > : >>> 4WD chariots of the dawggie Hi-Lux era.
> : > : >>> Like Bland Cruisers, ferinstance - also blighted with the same
common
> : > : >>> fault set.
> : > : >>>
> : > : >> Dawggies Lux is about 18yrs old so a bit of maintenance like a
mc
> : > : >> overhaul is to be expected, I'd hardly consider something
wearing out
> : > : >> after that length of time to be a problem.
> : > : >> My Hilux just clicked over 120,000klms and its still on the OE
brakes
> : > : >> pads and rear brake shoes, at the current rate of wear they
will last
> : > : >> about 200,000klms which is nothing to complain about.
> : > : >
> : > : > The Camry's front disc pads were original and were replaced at
195.000ks.
> : > : > Car 13 yrs old.
> : > :
> : > : I wonder why Toyota can make brakes that last so long and most
other
> : > : manufacturers can't?
> : > :
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : Daryl
> : >
> : > I dont believe that you can make a set of front brake pads last
almost 200,000kms.  Im convinced
> : > that at some stage they have been replaced during a service at least
once.  Well, unless you 
> keep
> : > using the car in front to stop you that is.  ;o)
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > Either that or the driver does all highway driving and slows down a
km before he has to holding 
> up
> : > all traffic behind them.
> : >
> : >
> : When I bought my Hilux it had done 55,000klms so its unlikely they
were
> : replaced before I bought it, I've serviced it myself so I know the
pads
> : haven't been changed.
> : Its now done a bit over 120,000klms and is due for a service so I'll
> : check the pads again this weekend, I had the wheels off a couple of
> : weeks ago when I fitted my off road tyres and the pads still look well
> : under half worn.
> : I do do a lot of hwy driving and I am usually gentle on the brakes
which
> : does explain why they are lasting so long to a certain extent.
> : My wifes 01 Corolla still had its OE pads when we sold it at
85,000klms
> : and they looked like they still had lots of life left in them.
> : I've owned lots of different makes and model cars and the Toyotas are
> : the only ones that have brake pads that last this long.
> :
> :
> :
> : Daryl
> 
> 
> Yeah, 50-60K I can comprehend, 195,000 is absurd!

If the pads were replaced before I bought it at 55,000klms why then 
would the new pads last another 65,000klms without any significant wear?
The pads in the Corolla we used to own were less than half worn at 
85,000klms and I know they were OE because we had the car from new and I 
serviced it myself.


Daryl