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Re: Diesel Question

by the_dawggie <the_dawggie@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 4, 2008 at 01:02 AM

Klompmeester wrote:
> "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:MROSj.7083$ko5.2963@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Klompmeester wrote:
>>> "Bernd Felsche" <bernie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>>> news:r95re5x6n7.ln2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>> Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>> Kias solution to ADR 30 on their little Ceres trucks is an
EXTREMELY
>>>>>> restricted exhaust system.
>>>>>> About 50 mm at the exhaust manifold down to 25 at the tail.
>>>>> Ugh.  How small was that engine again?
>>>>>> All carbon ends up in the sump:-)
>>>>> Where it belongs.  :-)
>>>>>> But it's easily fixed and believe it or not the engine doesn't
blast
>>>>>> noticeably more soot out the pipe anyway.
>>>>> It's the nano-particles that you can't see that are doing the
damage...
>>>> Allegedly.  It's a hypothesis.  No more than AGW and us making a
>>>> hole in the ozone layer.
>>>>
>>>> Data dredges have found a (weak) correlation between exposure to
>>>> high levels of diesel particulates and cancers.  Uncontrolled
>>>> "studies" and re-analyses with a middle risk ratio barely above
>>>> unity.
>>>>
>>>> But the same population is typically dominated by those who can't
>>>> afford proper health care, nice food, etc. Poverty gives you cancer.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, those parents who provide a sterile bubble for their
>>>> offsprung, will see their children suffer and probably die from the
>>>> normal stuff that nature puts their way once outside the bubble. The
>>>> immune system has to be innoculated by as much of the prospective
>>>> environment as possible, early in life.
>>> Allegedly.  It's a hypothesis.
>> It is a variable. Does not worry me in the slightest, I know
>> a 73 year old who smokes ciggies dawn to dusk most of his
>> life and is doing fine.
> 
> Plenty of smokers never see 73. It's a definite health risk, as are
diesel 
> fumes. 

The smoker I know who is 73 appears totally unaffected of almost a
life time of chain smoking (and drinking too). Coughs sometimes.

It really depends on the person, agreed some folk will get sick
or possibly develop cancer. It's all the luck of the draw in life.

The only way car fumes (diesel/petrol/whatever) is I have to
blow the crap out of my nose every morning, the folk in "the
****eney basin" yup, get sick from it. Interestingly in the country
I don't need to do that every morning.
 




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Diesel Question
"Michael C" <  2008-04-30 18:59:06 
Re: Diesel Question
Diesel Damo <Diesel_4W  2008-04-30 02:23:08 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-30 09:58:02 
Re: Diesel Question
dbr <dron@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-03 09:17:48 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-30 09:34:26 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-04-30 19:42:29 
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JD <jjd@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-30 20:06:05 
Re: Diesel Question
"Rheilly Phoull"  2008-04-30 18:19:18 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-08 07:11:56 
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Diesel Damo <Diesel_4W  2008-04-30 03:22:58 
Re: Diesel Question
Feral Al <plonked@[EMA  2008-04-30 20:24:12 
Re: Diesel Question
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-04-30 20:36:19 
Re: Diesel Question
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-04-30 12:19:02 
Re: Diesel Question
"James" <dot  2008-04-30 20:58:52 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-04-30 23:46:38 
Re: Diesel Question
JD <jjd@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-01 06:27:26 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-30 22:33:00 
Re: Diesel Question
Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-01 17:39:56 
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"Michael C" <  2008-04-30 22:02:35 
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Diesel Damo <Diesel_4W  2008-04-30 06:45:09 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-05-01 00:56:10 
Re: Diesel Question
"Klompmeester"   2008-05-01 07:18:00 
Re: Diesel Question
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-04-30 15:16:46 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-30 22:05:57 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-04-30 15:21:45 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-30 22:12:46 
Re: Diesel Question
jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 12:33:30 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-04-30 15:22:29 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-30 22:21:33 
Re: Diesel Question
"Klompmeester"   2008-05-01 07:22:20 
Re: Diesel Question
jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 12:39:35 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-01 04:05:32 
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jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 14:54:12 
Re: Diesel Question
Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-01 17:45:42 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-01 08:37:36 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-01 08:43:07 
Re: Diesel Question
JD <jjd@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-01 19:54:32 
Re: Diesel Question
Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-02 16:59:47 
Re: Diesel Question
JD <jjd@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-02 20:40:05 
Re: Diesel Question
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-04 20:14:34 
Re: Diesel Question
Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-04 20:44:23 
Re: Diesel Question
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-05 20:09:47 
Re: Diesel Question
Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-01 18:46:27 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-01 09:08:46 
Re: Diesel Question
Diesel Damo <Diesel_4W  2008-04-30 16:58:48 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-01 00:11:54 
Re: Diesel Question
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-01 21:18:55 
Re: Diesel Question
"." <dot@[EM  2008-05-01 03:52:38 
Re: Diesel Question
"Klompmeester"   2008-05-01 17:47:33 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-01 10:15:18 
Re: Diesel Question
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-01 10:48:59 
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Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-01 21:42:44 
Re: Diesel Question
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-01 12:39:48 
Re: Diesel Question
Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-02 17:03:28 
Re: Diesel Question
"Klompmeester"   2008-05-01 20:32:55 
Re: Diesel Question
Diesel Damo <Diesel_4W  2008-05-03 02:47:54 
Re: Diesel Question
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-01 14:34:39 
Re: Diesel Question
jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-03 12:35:48 
Re: Diesel Question
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-01 14:42:58 
Re: Diesel Question
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-01 14:48:40 
Re: Diesel Question
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-02 07:49:53 
Re: Diesel Question
Bernd Felsche <bernie@  2008-05-02 17:59:55 
Re: Diesel Question
"Klompmeester"   2008-05-03 00:14:18 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-03 01:03:40 
Re: Diesel Question
"Klompmeester"   2008-05-04 07:56:35 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-04 01:02:03 
Re: Diesel Question
"Klompmeester"   2008-05-04 14:11:54 
Re: Diesel Question
Feral Al <plonked@[EMA  2008-05-04 12:33:13 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-04 04:42:59 
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Feral Al <plonked@[EMA  2008-05-04 15:31:12 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-04 05:45:37 
Re: Diesel Question
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-04 19:55:05 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-05-04 20:23:23 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-04 10:42:51 
Re: Diesel Question
John McKenzie <jmac_me  2008-05-02 21:52:40 
Re: Diesel Question
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-01 14:51:53 
Re: Diesel Question
"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-02 01:10:43 
Re: Diesel Question
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-03 01:01:10 
Re: Diesel Question
"Dan--." <en  2008-05-01 18:23:54 
Re: Diesel Question
Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-02 17:10:46 
Re: Diesel Question
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-02 08:42:53 
Re: Diesel Question
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-02 08:47:23 
Re: Diesel Question
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-03 00:57:51 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-02 03:37:18 
Re: Diesel Question
dbr <dron@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-03 09:11:15 
Re: Diesel Question
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-03 03:21:11 
Re: Diesel Question
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-03 03:29:47 
Re: Diesel Question
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-03 04:16:54 
Re: Diesel Question
jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-03 17:53:00 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-03 13:08:55 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-03 13:12:31 
Re: Diesel Question
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-04 06:49:20 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-05 13:20:43 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-05 22:07:36 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-07 19:40:44 

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