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Re: Diesel Question

by "Klompmeester" <whowhere@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 4, 2008 at 02:11 PM

"the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:fW7Tj.7331$ko5.4194@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Klompmeester wrote:
>> "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>> news:MROSj.7083$ko5.2963@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Klompmeester wrote:
>>>> "Bernd Felsche" <bernie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>>>> news:r95re5x6n7.ln2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>> Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>> Kias solution to ADR 30 on their little Ceres trucks is an
EXTREMELY
>>>>>>> restricted exhaust system.
>>>>>>> About 50 mm at the exhaust manifold down to 25 at the tail.
>>>>>> Ugh.  How small was that engine again?
>>>>>>> All carbon ends up in the sump:-)
>>>>>> Where it belongs.  :-)
>>>>>>> But it's easily fixed and believe it or not the engine doesn't
blast
>>>>>>> noticeably more soot out the pipe anyway.
>>>>>> It's the nano-particles that you can't see that are doing the 
>>>>>> damage...
>>>>> Allegedly.  It's a hypothesis.  No more than AGW and us making a
>>>>> hole in the ozone layer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Data dredges have found a (weak) correlation between exposure to
>>>>> high levels of diesel particulates and cancers.  Uncontrolled
>>>>> "studies" and re-analyses with a middle risk ratio barely above
>>>>> unity.
>>>>>
>>>>> But the same population is typically dominated by those who can't
>>>>> afford proper health care, nice food, etc. Poverty gives you cancer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, those parents who provide a sterile bubble for their
>>>>> offsprung, will see their children suffer and probably die from the
>>>>> normal stuff that nature puts their way once outside the bubble. The
>>>>> immune system has to be innoculated by as much of the prospective
>>>>> environment as possible, early in life.
>>>> Allegedly.  It's a hypothesis.
>>> It is a variable. Does not worry me in the slightest, I know
>>> a 73 year old who smokes ciggies dawn to dusk most of his
>>> life and is doing fine.
>>
>> Plenty of smokers never see 73. It's a definite health risk, as are 
>> diesel fumes.
>
> The smoker I know who is 73 appears totally unaffected of almost a
> life time of chain smoking (and drinking too). Coughs sometimes.
>
> It really depends on the person, agreed some folk will get sick
> or possibly develop cancer. It's all the luck of the draw in life.

Luck has nothing to do with it. Smoking greatly increases the risk.
 




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Diesel Question
"Michael C" <  2008-04-30 18:59:06 
Re: Diesel Question
Diesel Damo <Diesel_4W  2008-04-30 02:23:08 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-30 09:58:02 
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dbr <dron@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-03 09:17:48 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-30 09:34:26 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-04-30 19:42:29 
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JD <jjd@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-30 20:06:05 
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"Rheilly Phoull"  2008-04-30 18:19:18 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-08 07:11:56 
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Diesel Damo <Diesel_4W  2008-04-30 03:22:58 
Re: Diesel Question
Feral Al <plonked@[EMA  2008-04-30 20:24:12 
Re: Diesel Question
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-04-30 20:36:19 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-04-30 12:19:02 
Re: Diesel Question
"James" <dot  2008-04-30 20:58:52 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-04-30 23:46:38 
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JD <jjd@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-01 06:27:26 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-30 22:33:00 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-01 17:39:56 
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"Michael C" <  2008-04-30 22:02:35 
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Diesel Damo <Diesel_4W  2008-04-30 06:45:09 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-05-01 00:56:10 
Re: Diesel Question
"Klompmeester"   2008-05-01 07:18:00 
Re: Diesel Question
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-04-30 15:16:46 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-30 22:05:57 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-04-30 15:21:45 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-30 22:12:46 
Re: Diesel Question
jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 12:33:30 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-04-30 15:22:29 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-04-30 22:21:33 
Re: Diesel Question
"Klompmeester"   2008-05-01 07:22:20 
Re: Diesel Question
jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 12:39:35 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-01 04:05:32 
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jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 14:54:12 
Re: Diesel Question
Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-01 17:45:42 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-01 08:37:36 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-01 08:43:07 
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JD <jjd@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-01 19:54:32 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-02 16:59:47 
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JD <jjd@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-02 20:40:05 
Re: Diesel Question
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-04 20:14:34 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-04 20:44:23 
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Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-05 20:09:47 
Re: Diesel Question
Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-01 18:46:27 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-01 09:08:46 
Re: Diesel Question
Diesel Damo <Diesel_4W  2008-04-30 16:58:48 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-01 00:11:54 
Re: Diesel Question
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-01 21:18:55 
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"." <dot@[EM  2008-05-01 03:52:38 
Re: Diesel Question
"Klompmeester"   2008-05-01 17:47:33 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-01 10:15:18 
Re: Diesel Question
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-01 10:48:59 
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Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-01 21:42:44 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-01 12:39:48 
Re: Diesel Question
Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-02 17:03:28 
Re: Diesel Question
"Klompmeester"   2008-05-01 20:32:55 
Re: Diesel Question
Diesel Damo <Diesel_4W  2008-05-03 02:47:54 
Re: Diesel Question
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-01 14:34:39 
Re: Diesel Question
jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-03 12:35:48 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-01 14:42:58 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-01 14:48:40 
Re: Diesel Question
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-02 07:49:53 
Re: Diesel Question
Bernd Felsche <bernie@  2008-05-02 17:59:55 
Re: Diesel Question
"Klompmeester"   2008-05-03 00:14:18 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-03 01:03:40 
Re: Diesel Question
"Klompmeester"   2008-05-04 07:56:35 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-04 01:02:03 
Re: Diesel Question
"Klompmeester"   2008-05-04 14:11:54 
Re: Diesel Question
Feral Al <plonked@[EMA  2008-05-04 12:33:13 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-04 04:42:59 
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Feral Al <plonked@[EMA  2008-05-04 15:31:12 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-04 05:45:37 
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Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-04 19:55:05 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-05-04 20:23:23 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-04 10:42:51 
Re: Diesel Question
John McKenzie <jmac_me  2008-05-02 21:52:40 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-01 14:51:53 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-02 01:10:43 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-03 01:01:10 
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"Dan--." <en  2008-05-01 18:23:54 
Re: Diesel Question
Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-02 17:10:46 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-02 08:42:53 
Re: Diesel Question
Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-02 08:47:23 
Re: Diesel Question
Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-03 00:57:51 
Re: Diesel Question
the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-02 03:37:18 
Re: Diesel Question
dbr <dron@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-03 09:11:15 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-03 03:21:11 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-03 03:29:47 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-03 04:16:54 
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jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-03 17:53:00 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-03 13:08:55 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-03 13:12:31 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-04 06:49:20 
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Toby Ponsenby <me@[EMA  2008-05-05 13:20:43 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-05 22:07:36 
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the_dawggie <the_dawgg  2008-05-07 19:40:44 

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