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>,
dwalford@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> Albm&ctd wrote:
> > In article <ldednfOYKbt7JofVnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > dwalford@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> >> JD wrote:
> >>> the_dawggie wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> the_dawggie wrote:
> >>>>> Daryl Walford wrote:
> >>>>>> the_dawggie wrote:
> >>>>>>> Toby Ponsenby wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:02:35 +1000d, Michael C Blathered on
> >>>>>>>> in4818601a$0$13944$afc38c87@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Michael C" <mike@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> news:48183518$0$17509$afc38c87@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>>>>>> I noticed that diesels have a lot of torque below idle. If
you let
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> revs of the engine drop when idling up a hill when the revs
get to
> >>>>>>>>>> around idle you suddenly get a lot of extra torque. Is this
just
> >>>>>>>>>> the way
> >>>>>>>>>> they work or is the computer opening the throttle some?
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for all the replies. Looks like it's just one of the
many
> >>>>>>>>> advantages of owning a diesel :-)
> >>>>>>>> Paging Dawggie....
> >>>>>>> hi :-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Oh yeah, {turbo} diesel is the only way to go, there just
> >>>>>>> is so many advantages to it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Also no spark plugs, ignition system or anything like
> >>>>>>> that to set up. In our climate don't usually need the
> >>>>>>> glow plugs to work.
> >>>>>> My old Landcruiser always needed its glow plugs, no glow plugs
meant
> >>>>>> no start even on a hot day if the engine was cold.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Daryl
> >>>>> Not here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is an interesting question. Engine is warm ATM so I
> >>>>> can't try it. Getting between 8 to 13 C in the mornings,
> >>>>> have noticed the engine not having much interest in them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'll have to do further testing.
> >>>> 8 C is about the lower end of things - they start to be
> >>>> needed then.
> >>> Both my Landrover (Isuzu) and tractor (Perkins), both with indirect
> >>> injection will start readily at zero without heater plugs, but the
Isuzu
> >>> starts to need them below that - not sure about the tractor, any
colder is
> >>> not suitable for using a tractor with no windows.
> >> Must be a very old tractor, most of the very many Perkins engines I
> >> worked on in the 70's were direct injection.
> >> What model Perkins diesel?
> >> I can't recall ever seeing a Perkins with glow plugs, they used to
have
> >> a heater in the inlet manifold which was rarely needed in our
climate.
> >>
> > Most of the compressor engines were 6-354 and they sure needed the
heater
> > in the cold mornings. Of course the ones with guttered valves were
worse,
> > lowered compression through wear, hard to start. The welding plants
were
> > 3 cylinder. why am I telling you this cupcake, *****d if I know
really.
> > You just stirred some misty melty '70s memories.
>
> I don't recall needing the heater to start a 6-354 provided the engine
> was in good condition.
> Perkins diesels were a bit sensitive to bad fuel and I recall spending
> lots of time repairing fuel components especially when they were fueled
> from drums left outside.
> The 3 cylinder engines were most likely a 3-152 which were very common
> in Massey Ferguson tractors, they were bloody hard to kill, I remember a
> trade in that wouldn't start that the workshop foreman eventually got
> running with a can of aero start.
> When dismantling the engine to find out why it was making such horrible
> noises I found the crankshaft was broken in 2 places:-)
>
70's government diesel must have been the worst going by the plumes of
black that came from the Mazda work utes on start up.
Al
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