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Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?

by Albm&ctd <alb_mandctdNOWMD@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 5, 2008 at 09:48 PM

In article <MPG.2288f83ea1547f05989e45@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, 
carl.robson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
> In article <MPG.22897e644d8a6ea98977c@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, 
> alb_mandctdNOWMD@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
> > Regarding running ethanol, I simply don't think burnt valves, holed 
> > pistons or cracked heads would improve performance or emissions. Not
as 
> > bad as methanol though. You MUST make changes to timing and jetting to

> > run alcohol fuels and you will use far more alcohol than petrol for
the 
> > same power output. The ideal is to run alcohol fuels on the rich side
to 
> > avoid problems. With methanol it's approximately twice the fuel you
would 
> > use on straight petrol. You can't just dump these fuels into an engine

> > with stock settings and expect the engine to last. 
> > 
> I've actually been looking into this a little since joining this 
> discussion.
> 
> I plan, sometime in the near future to tune the Trionic 5 ecu (yes it is

> T5.2 1993 ecu but it is still possible) with T5suite.
> 
> http://members.home.nl/t5suite/
> 
> And in the do***entation, there is mention of E85, and tunning the 
> injector cycle and ignition timing/advance to run E85 through a 
> mechanically stock T5, and possibly even T7 car.
> 
> On the subject of burned valves etc, unlikley to happen if you do add 
> sufficient extra fuel which is what I said regarding carb jetting and 
> adaption ranges. I said don't let it run lean. A standard spark ignition

> engine, with sufficient fueling is all you need. Just look at 
> LPG/Propane systems. Propane is far lower than petrol in calorific 
> value. It doesn't even need to be accuratley measures, just open the 
> tap, pour it in, fire the spark, drive. No problems. Again, get it too 
> lean and it will break the engine. A simple gas tester can sort that 
> out.
> 
I've run methanol in air cooled engines. It's rather more complicated 
than it first appears. With limited knowledge.. Good luck. 

Al
-- 

Like Noddy, as I travel through life, it's not the personal attacks 
I'm concerned about, it's being recognised wearing lippy and a dress. 
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Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-26 21:30:38 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Polly the Parrot <flat  2008-04-27 07:58:22 
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Sheik Yerbhouti <sy@[E  2008-04-26 22:56:55 
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"Mr. 7%" <no  2008-04-27 10:37:48 
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Diesel Damo <Diesel_4W  2008-04-26 17:04:26 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
John_H <john4721@[EMAI  2008-04-27 09:45:15 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-04-27 10:41:03 
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John_H <john4721@[EMAI  2008-04-27 11:13:16 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-27 05:01:35 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-04-28 00:04:31 
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John_H <john4721@[EMAI  2008-04-28 11:21:37 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-04-28 12:47:07 
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John_H <john4721@[EMAI  2008-04-28 14:24:06 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-04-28 19:06:42 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-08 07:11:54 
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John_H <john4721@[EMAI  2008-05-08 09:40:44 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-08 14:25:16 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-08 19:52:52 
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John_H <john4721@[EMAI  2008-05-09 09:00:26 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-09 20:37:39 
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John_H <john4721@[EMAI  2008-05-11 06:52:20 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-11 10:29:02 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-09 14:10:08 
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John_H <john4721@[EMAI  2008-05-09 17:43:37 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-27 00:56:30 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-27 04:48:09 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-04-28 20:14:41 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-04-28 20:33:41 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-29 01:34:47 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Elder <carl.robson@[EM  2008-05-03 13:03:10 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-05 20:29:12 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Elder <carl.robson@[EM  2008-05-05 11:56:38 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-05 21:48:55 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Elder <carl.robson@[EM  2008-05-05 13:21:52 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-05-06 00:21:09 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-06 15:31:07 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-05-06 06:26:45 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
tony@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-09 09:37:29 

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