Toby Ponsenby wrote:
> On Tue, 06 May 2008 02:21:34 +1000d, Jeßus Blathered on
> infvnbu0$mj3$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>>> On Mon, 05 May 2008 18:25:45 +1000d, Jeßus Blathered on
>>> infvmg20$s80$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>> I'm checking out a couple of 75 series Cruisers tomorrow morning,
both
>>>> (presumably) still have 2H diesels. Apart from the obvious (such as
>>>> test driving them), does anyone know of anything to look out for with
>>>> the 2H? Any common problems these engines are prone to and if so, any
>>>> way to check visually without resorting to pulling them apart?
>>>>
>>>> I suppose ditto for the rest of the drive train as well ...
>>>>
>>>> Although I haven't driven one for nearly 15 years, I used to drive
>>>> them daily for many years, so any odd noises etc should be easy for
me
>>>> to pick up on (I hope!)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tnx,
>>> just some random observations...
>>>
>>> Glo-plugs.. Don't warn the seller? of your approach, so they don't get
>>> to warm the engine up before you get there. Injector tips can be a
>>> problem with high milers - puffy smokers at idle might telegraph that.
>>> They also develop a distinct bell-like sound at idle with rooted
>>> injector time.
>>> Most of the other stupid little problems they have seem to require a
>>> spanner or two - like problems with the seals of the pump. Oil where
>>> air should be - one bolt for that. Diesel getting past the front pump
>>> seal is a little harder to check:-) And the usual ****y Toyota trick
>>> of letting the diff oil into the wheel bearings. That is turn lets the
>>> swivel pin bearings burfield joints designed to work with Grease stuff
>>> up and so on and so forth. Look for oil seepage near the outer
seals/FW
>>> Hubs. They are also justly famous for pumping all the oil out of the
>>> transfer case - which of course they hide in the gearbox. Result is a
>>> ****ed transfer case and gearbox seals, for that matter. There's a
>>> operational cure called a heart bypass done by some in which a sturdy
>>> (should be Hydraulic pressure hose) pipe and fittings set is adapted
to
>>> drain oil above the gearbox filler back to the transfer case filler.
>>> Works a treat - one of them on the machine is a sure sign that someone
>>> gave a **** about it. Or was burned for transfer case work in the
past.
>>>
>>> Some high milers dump too much oil past worn rockers making the engine
>>> conk-out just after starting due low oil pressure. They can duplicate
>>> that problem by having a stuffed timer relay, too. Damm hard to tell
>>> the difference because Toyota appears to have over- damped the oil
>>> pressure gauges.
>>> BTW if you get a chance, get at the oil pressure sender lower RHS of
>>> the engine and yank the plug off. (bit hazy n whether it needs to be
>>> earthed to stop the engine - I think not - that O/C does it - but you
>>> get the idea. The engine should either stop, or not start if it was
>>> stopped when you played. Yes, believe it or not they do have a low oil
>>> pressure cut- off system and it's not hard to defeat to disguise a
>>> rooted mill.
>>>
>>> The brake master cyl will most likely be stuffed - see other thread:-)
>>> Since they don't make much power anyway, it's pretty hard to tell of
>>> they are clagged out, but a little hill should see whether the engine
>>> actually hangs on it's torque-peak properly - only a good 2H will do
>>> that. Other than that, they're pretty right.........., well, I hope
so.
>>>
>>> BTW if the things you look at have the later HZ engines and there is
>>> ANY sign of their being overheated, walk away. Fast. From what I'm
told
>>> by those who work on them they're not a successful repair proposition
>>> if they've been cooked.
>> Thanks very much Toby, most appreciated indeed.
>>
>> Interesting about the oil pressure cut-off switch, didn't know it
>> existed. As for the oil leaks... those I do have fond memories of :)
>>
>> As these engines are quite old, high mileage and a lacking in power (by
>> todays standards at least) I'm not expecting too much from them, but
>> it'd be good to have an indication of their general condition.
>>
>> Both of these utes are around the $6K mark so *if* they check out well
>> in other respects, i.e straight and no real rust (and they are supposed
>> to be very good in that respect), then I had in mind an engine
>> transplant of some sort in the long term. Many options in that
>> department and I've made no firm decision on that at this stage.
>>
>> Cheers
>
>
>
> heh - I bought one once from WA that had no rust. But every single panel
> on it was utterly ****ed and it didn't take long for the barbed-wire
> scratches to let the dreaded rust get motivated on the eastern seaboard.
> Good truck, though - it hadn't ever been on the highway and the metering
> pump took about 1000Kms of WOT to decide it could in fact get past where
> it had lived insofar as fuel delivery in the past. Went very well after
> that.
>
>
> Good luck - I can't help liking the older cruisers - with all their
> fraughtness:-)
Yep - they're excellent at what they're designed for, and it's my idea
of a 4X4. No ****ing carpet, airbags and other bull****, an interior
that will handle mud etc, and a chassis that will take a lot of
punishment. Doors, roof, windscreen can be unbolted. My kind of 4X4 :)
Not so great in the city, but that's not a problem for me.
Besides, I have other vehicles for those sort of trips.
> Hate to be the bearer of unglad tidings - but I have it on reliable
> authority that no-one has managed to fit a 1HZ into a Cruiser meant to
> take a 2H. Really. Don't know why as you'd think it would be a
natural:-(
Yeah, you'd think a 1HZ would be a shoe-in??
As it turns out, one the Crusiers I looked at was a petrol (3F). It was
by far in better condition all around, not a trace of rust or panel
damage.
The diesel I looked at was much rougher, quite a few dings and wear and
tear... and unsurprisingly infinitely less powerful than the petrol.
IIRC the 2H was only good for less than 90KW, so an old one with over
300,000 on the clock... Plus, there was a ****load of play in the
steering, apart from that mechanically it did seem ok.
I bought the petrol Cruiser as I couldn't ignore it's condition. It was
a farm vehicle but the guy sure must have babied the thing. I know the
3F drinks fuel like no tomorrow (I used to own a 2F years ago) and no
dual fuel either - but as mentioned before I was thinking about an
engine transplant in the long term anyway.
As for transplant options, I may or may not go diesel, depending on what
comes my way at what cost and the complexity involved. Wouldn't mind a
turbo diesel...
Can't stop thinking about possibly a Lexus V8 actually - would be near
double the power at half the weight and vastly better fuel consumption.
Smooth and torquey enough at low revs, and they're pretty cheap to buy.
That said, I've no idea if any kits exist for this particular transplant
as I type this. I will definitely investigate though.
How about a dirty big ***mins diesel? Hmm :)
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