Re: Speed Camera Fine/NSW-wrong Driver?HELP!

"George W. Frost" <frosty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Roger" <someone@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "larstetens" <larstetens.3961l8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>
>>> I got a  penalty notice from NSW OSR regarding a speed camera fine for
a
>>> speed offense that occurred when I was out of the country-I wasn't the
>>> driver (out of country).But as I am the registered owner-I got the
>>> bloody fine.  I narrowed it down to 2 mates who were driving the car
>>> when visiting from America-SO WHAT do I do?
>>>
>>> I've never had a speed fine(not perfect-just lucky I reckon).  I'm
>>> supposed to fill out that "stat-dec"-to say I wasn't driving the
>>> car-which is not the issue/problem (obvious-I wasn't in the country).
>>> But I can't get either my two mates to cop to "who was driving"...So I
>>> have no way of 100%/Dead set identifying "who" was actually driving
the
>>> car-and the pic according to the OSR doesn't reveal that.  Furthermore
I
>>> don't have these blokes "drivers license numbers"?? How am I supposed
to
>>> sign that statutory declaration form? I know I wasn't the driver-but I
>>> have no idea at the end of the day WHO was actually driving the car at
>>> the exact moment of the fine-and NSW OSR doesn't really offer any help
>>> either.
>>>
>>> Anybody know how this process works if you weren't the driver?  Do I
>>> just pick one of these blokes-give their address in America and "wash
>>> my hands" of the ordeal?  I just don't want to have to pay the fine or
>>> get the points-as I wasn't even in the country.....HELP
>>>
>>>
>> Just fill out the Stat Dec, send a photocopy of your pass****t with the 
>> date out/in stamps.
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> Might work
>

Bit hard, considering they don't stamp them anymore (well- the new 
E-pass****ts anyway. Not sure about the old ones)

>>Tell em you have no idea who was driving and that no one was authorised
to 
>>drive whilst you were out of the country.
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> Don't think that line will work
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> Owner****p of the vehicle is proof enough for them,

It might be enough for them. It's not enough for a court though.

> if you are the owner,  then you are responsible,

That's incorrect and would be thrown out if challenged in court.
The police are asserting that the *OP* was speeding, hence the fine. They 
then have to prove that is the case.
Simply proving that his car was speeding is not enough, especially if he
can 
prove that he was out of the country at the time.

-- 
Kwyj.