Re: Speed Camera Fine/NSW-wrong Driver?HELP!

On Sun, 11 May 2008 07:56:33 +0000d, RainbowWarrior Blathered on
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>>>> "larstetens" <larstetens.3961l8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>
>>>>> I got a  penalty notice from NSW OSR regarding a speed camera fine
>>>>> for a
>>>>> speed offense that occurred when I was out of the country-I wasn't
>>>>> the driver (out of country).But as I am the registered owner-I got
>>>>> the bloody fine.  I narrowed it down to 2 mates who were driving the
>>>>> car when visiting from America-SO WHAT do I do?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never had a speed fine(not perfect-just lucky I reckon).  I'm
>>>>> supposed to fill out that "stat-dec"-to say I wasn't driving the
>>>>> car-which is not the issue/problem (obvious-I wasn't in the
>>>>> country). But I can't get either my two mates to cop to "who was
>>>>> driving"...So I have no way of 100%/Dead set identifying "who" was
>>>>> actually driving the car-and the pic according to the OSR doesn't
>>>>> reveal that.  Furthermore I
>>>>> don't have these blokes "drivers license numbers"?? How am I
>>>>> supposed to
>>>>> sign that statutory declaration form? I know I wasn't the driver-but
>>>>> I have no idea at the end of the day WHO was actually driving the
>>>>> car at the exact moment of the fine-and NSW OSR doesn't really offer
>>>>> any help either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anybody know how this process works if you weren't the driver?  Do I
>>>>> just pick one of these blokes-give their address in America and
>>>>> "wash my hands" of the ordeal?  I just don't want to have to pay the
>>>>> fine or get the points-as I wasn't even in the country.....HELP
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Just fill out the Stat Dec, send a photocopy of your pass****t with
>>>> the date out/in stamps.
>>>
>>> Might work
>>>
>>>>Tell em you have no idea who was driving and that no one was
>>>>authorised to drive whilst you were out of the country.
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't think that line will work
>>>
>>> Owner****p of the vehicle is proof enough for them, if you are the
>>> owner, then you are responsible,
>> OK give em the names and addresses of the two tourists from the USA -
>> the US addresses will terminate any attempts at getting the money.
>>
>> In fact I'm surprised there isn't some sort of trade on eBay for this
>> sort of thing - I shall have to advertise on eBay UK next time I'm
>> there "Aussie prepared to cop traffic fines at 50% of the fine value
>> PLUS no demerit points on your licence"
> 
> Yeah just because it's your vehicle, it doesn't mean you'r in anyway
> responsible for it's use if you can prove you weren't driving, anyone
> else can do what they like with it scott free.

Exactly.
Glad you've managed to get that thick head of yours around that.
The police are perfectly able to enforce the stupid arbitrary speed limit 
laws in the traditional manner, thanks.




-- 
Toby