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Re: Sydney Bicycle accident

by Doug Jewell <ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 12, 2008 at 08:49 PM

Trevor Wilson wrote:
> "Noddy" <me@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:4827a55a$0$58058$c30e37c6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>> news:68p9l8F2sshtoU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>> Swerving and stopping in front of a group of cyclists, then leaving
the 
>>> scene of the resulting accident, is not only illegal, but extremely
poor 
>>> form.
>> It depends entirely on the cir***stances.
> 
> **Indeed. An engine fault is not a situation which calls for endangering
the 
> lives of 50 cyclists. It is a situation which calls for the driver to
allow 
> the vehicle to slow, whilst looking for an op****tunity to get off the
road 
> SAFELY.
One re****t that I saw (and bear in mind it was a re****t, so 
there is no guarantee to it's truth), said that several 
cyclists overtook him BEFORE they started ploughing into the 
back of the car. If he stopped in the way you are describing 
you would expect the front cyclists to be the ones hitting 
him. If the front cyclists got past, and it was ones further 
down in the pack that hit him, it tells me that there is 
nothing wrong with his stopping action, but it was the 
cyclists were riding too close to each other to be able to 
A) see the unexpected and B) react to the unexpected.
> 
>> It's been re****ted that the guy in question suffered a mechanical fault

>> and had to stop in a hurry,
> 
> **Yeah, sounded like he was coached well by his lawyer to me too. Can
you 
> think of an engine fault which requires such emergency action, such that
the 
> lives of 50 people were put at risk? Hell, he (allegedly) re-started
quickly 
> enough, so he could flee the scene. Smells like bull**** to me.
Frig, if I had 50 pissed off s****tsman gathering around me, 
I'd cut and run too. Although I would head to a safe area 
before calling the police on my mobile, or go to a police 
station.
> 
>  and after a bike or 6 ran into him he left when it
>> became clear that he wasn't popular amongst the pack of 50 or so
cyclists.
> 
> **Gee, I wonder why? He swerved in front of them, placing their lives at

> risk.
I once tooted my horn at a group of 6 cyclists who were 
riding abreast at about 30km/hr on a country road (80 zone) 
with double white lines, stopping me from overtaking them. 
The way they carried on after I gave 1 short toot, I might 
as well have clipped their wheels with my bumper. The 
dickheads stopped in the road and were looking for a fight. 
With the way they carried on, I wouldn't be surprised at all 
if that side of the bloke's story is 100% accurate.
> 
>> If that's what happened (and we should bear in mind that this account
of 
>> events carries no more or less weight than any other), then the poor
form 
>> lays entirely at the feet of the bike riders.
> 
> **They weren't Hell's Angel bikers, for ****'s sake. They were cyclists.

> Come to think of it: It is a shame he didn't pull the same stunt in
front of 
> a group of Hell's Angels. I suspect the police would be investigating an

> entirely different scenario. Chalk outlines and all that.
At 50 vs 1, it doesn't matter a hoot if they were Hell's 
Angels or cyclists. Faced with 50 physically fit, angry 
blokes, would you stand up to them, or would you cut and 
run? I'm a big bloke and can handle myself in a fight, but 
I'd cut and run if I was faced with a dozen angry teenage 
girls, let alone 50 angry blokes. With odds like that, it 
would only take 3 or 4 out of the crowd to have a little bit 
of a criminal mindset, or to be high on the adrenaline of 
the situation, and he quite likely would have been beaten to 
death. Lets say the bloke didn't take off, and the cyclists 
did beat him to death - I wonder what the headlines would be 
saying then?
> 
> Trevor Wilson 
> 
>
 




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