Re: Speed Camera Fine/NSW-wrong Driver?HELP!

"Toby Ponsenby" <me@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:57:52 +0000d, RainbowWarrior Blathered on
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>> "Toby Ponsenby" <me@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 07:54:52 +0000d, RainbowWarrior Blathered on
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>>>> "Roger" <someone@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> "larstetens" <larstetens.3961l8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> I got a  penalty notice from NSW OSR regarding a speed camera fine
>>>>>> for a speed offense that occurred when I was out of the country-I
>>>>>> wasn't the driver (out of country).But as I am the registered
>>>>>> owner-I got the bloody fine.  I narrowed it down to 2 mates who
were
>>>>>> driving the car when visiting from America-SO WHAT do I do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never had a speed fine(not perfect-just lucky I reckon).  I'm
>>>>>> supposed to fill out that "stat-dec"-to say I wasn't driving the
>>>>>> car-which is not the issue/problem (obvious-I wasn't in the
>>>>>> country). But I can't get either my two mates to cop to "who was
>>>>>> driving"...So I have no way of 100%/Dead set identifying "who" was
>>>>>> actually driving the car-and the pic according to the OSR doesn't
>>>>>> reveal that. Furthermore I don't have these blokes "drivers license
>>>>>> numbers"?? How am I supposed to sign that statutory declaration
>>>>>> form? I know I wasn't the driver-but I have no idea at the end of
>>>>>> the day WHO was actually driving the car at the exact moment of the
>>>>>> fine-and NSW OSR doesn't really offer any help either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody know how this process works if you weren't the driver?  Do
I
>>>>>> just pick one of these blokes-give their address in America and
>>>>>> "wash my hands" of the ordeal?  I just don't want to have to pay
the
>>>>>> fine or get the points-as I wasn't even in the country.....HELP
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just fill out the Stat Dec, send a photocopy of your pass****t with
>>>>> the date out/in stamps. Tell em you have no idea who was driving and
>>>>> that no one was authorised to drive whilst you were out of the
>>>>> country.
>>>>
>>>> Yep so then you can fill out a stolen vehicle re****t too and put
these
>>>> to "mates" up on charges of theft because they took your car without
>>>> permission.
>>>
>>> Dig yourself a deeper hole, Worrier... All your little snippets simply
>>> prove that the legislation is a crock of ****.
>>> If the State wants to penalize motorists for stuff they 'invent', they
>>> the should have the appropriate representatives do so in person, at
the
>>> time and the place the offence allegedly occurs using evidence
obtained
>>> by those representatives AT THAT TIME AND PLACE.
>>>
>>> Toby
>>
>> Yep, it be great when someone prangs int your car, then drives off and
>> then you find the owner wasn't in the country and doesn't know who was
>> driving or won't tell so isn't liable for your repairs.
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>
> **** a duck... You have excelled yourself this time in your
buffoonery...
>
> The subject at hand, in case you haven't noticed due something entirely
> different and quite possibly horrifying in *your* hand - is Traffic
> Camera related allegations by the State.
>
> I haven't mentioned prangs.
> I wasn't intending to even consider them, because to believe that they
> have anything whatsoever to do with photographing collisions is
> absolutely and completely ****ed.
>
> You get that?
>
> Do try to keep up.
>
> Toby

Do try and see outside Tobyland too please