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Re: Sydney Bicycle accident

by "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 14, 2008 at 06:30 AM

"Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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>
> "Doug Jewell" <ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:482820dc$0$22133$5a62ac22@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> "Noddy" <me@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>>> news:4827a55a$0$58058$c30e37c6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message

>>>> news:68p9l8F2sshtoU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>>> Swerving and stopping in front of a group of cyclists, then leaving 
>>>>> the scene of the resulting accident, is not only illegal, but 
>>>>> extremely poor form.
>>>> It depends entirely on the cir***stances.
>>>
>>> **Indeed. An engine fault is not a situation which calls for
endangering 
>>> the lives of 50 cyclists. It is a situation which calls for the driver

>>> to allow the vehicle to slow, whilst looking for an op****tunity to get

>>> off the road SAFELY.
>> One re****t that I saw (and bear in mind it was a re****t, so there is no

>> guarantee to it's truth), said that several cyclists overtook him
BEFORE 
>> they started ploughing into the back of the car. If he stopped in the
way 
>> you are describing you would expect the front cyclists to be the ones 
>> hitting him. If the front cyclists got past, and it was ones further
down 
>> in the pack that hit him, it tells me that there is nothing wrong with 
>> his stopping action, but it was the cyclists were riding too close to 
>> each other to be able to A) see the unexpected and B) react to the 
>> unexpected.
>
>
> Precisely. For a hypothetical, try reversing the situation...........
>
> 5 cars driving nose to tail. The front car comes upon a cyclist and at
the 
> last minute swerves to pass the bike. The other 4 cars, driving to close

> to the car in front, don't have time to react and run straight over the 
> cyclist.
> Who does Trevor think would be at fault there?

**Try reversing the situation and I'll attempt to answer. Your scenario 
doesn't come close.

Trevor Wilson
 




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Sydney Bicycle accident
Online News Server <ne  2008-05-11 01:48:59 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-11 05:07:42 
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Doug Jewell <ask@[EMAI  2008-05-11 07:39:17 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-11 08:56:27 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-11 11:08:53 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-11 14:15:47 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-11 17:52:56 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-11 18:31:06 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-11 20:38:10 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-11 21:29:27 
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Kev <kevcat@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-12 00:46:19 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-12 07:01:05 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-12 08:05:11 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-12 08:13:37 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-05-11 15:09:55 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-12 08:06:32 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-12 08:17:54 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-12 12:03:02 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-12 12:33:00 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-12 13:27:44 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-05-13 23:29:04 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-14 13:49:53 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-14 16:37:03 
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jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-14 18:40:44 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-14 19:30:08 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-14 23:57:50 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-05-14 23:32:50 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-15 10:23:16 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-05-15 04:57:29 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-15 19:53:59 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-05-16 09:15:38 
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"lindsay" <a  2008-05-15 08:06:13 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-05-16 09:17:55 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-05-16 09:11:40 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-16 11:20:49 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-05-16 09:05:44 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-16 11:14:37 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-05-16 01:26:34 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-16 11:36:29 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-05-16 12:11:09 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-16 14:22:28 
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Feral Al <plonked@[EMA  2008-05-16 15:55:10 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-16 20:04:00 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-05-16 09:08:02 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-16 11:20:12 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-05-16 09:03:08 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-05-16 08:57:04 
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Doug Jewell <ask@[EMAI  2008-05-12 20:49:54 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-12 22:41:02 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-05-12 14:39:05 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-14 06:30:53 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-14 06:39:43 
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Doug Jewell <ask@[EMAI  2008-05-14 07:44:37 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-14 07:54:12 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-14 13:38:10 
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jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 18:40:05 
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"Klompmeester"   2008-05-12 23:19:05 
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jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-13 09:29:12 
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"Klompmeester"   2008-05-13 18:00:54 
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^Tems^ <brookersteve91  2008-05-13 15:07:32 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-13 16:51:07 
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ReSiN8oR <imnot@[EMAIL  2008-05-13 17:11:37 
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"The Raven" <  2008-05-11 20:20:56 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-11 21:29:53 
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duncanmcrae@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-10 21:21:18 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-11 15:11:41 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-05-11 16:05:57 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-11 17:55:49 
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duncanmcrae@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-14 02:50:04 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-05-14 13:55:40 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-05-16 09:25:06 
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duncanmcrae@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-14 08:09:32 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-05-14 23:42:53 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-15 03:51:38 
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duncanmcrae@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-15 21:26:50 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-05-16 09:13:32 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-11 17:55:15 
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duncanmcrae@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-10 23:34:59 
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"Lu R" <who   2008-05-11 16:53:11 
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"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-05-11 16:51:52 
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duncanmcrae@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-10 23:56:32 
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Online News Server <ne  2008-05-11 18:28:04 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-11 19:43:36 
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the fonz <arthur.fonzz  2008-05-11 02:21:49 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-11 20:46:57 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-11 21:30:23 
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the fonz <arthur.fonzz  2008-05-11 04:50:37 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-12 14:26:25 
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duncanmcrae@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-12 03:13:49 
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Doug Jewell <ask@[EMAI  2008-05-12 21:05:13 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-12 21:23:13 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-05-16 09:19:35 
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duncanmcrae@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-15 21:13:59 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-12 12:37:31 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-14 00:27:49 
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Doug Jewell <ask@[EMAI  2008-05-14 07:48:51 
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"RogerM" <Ro  2008-05-16 09:21:03 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-05-14 23:49:19 
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