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Re: Sydney Bicycle accident

by "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 14, 2008 at 06:39 AM

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Doug Jewell" <ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> "Noddy" <me@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>>>> news:4827a55a$0$58058$c30e37c6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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>>>>> news:68p9l8F2sshtoU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>>> Swerving and stopping in front of a group of cyclists, then leaving

>>>>>> the scene of the resulting accident, is not only illegal, but 
>>>>>> extremely poor form.
>>>>> It depends entirely on the cir***stances.
>>>>
>>>> **Indeed. An engine fault is not a situation which calls for 
>>>> endangering the lives of 50 cyclists. It is a situation which calls
for 
>>>> the driver to allow the vehicle to slow, whilst looking for an 
>>>> op****tunity to get off the road SAFELY.
>>> One re****t that I saw (and bear in mind it was a re****t, so there is
no 
>>> guarantee to it's truth), said that several cyclists overtook him
BEFORE 
>>> they started ploughing into the back of the car. If he stopped in the 
>>> way you are describing you would expect the front cyclists to be the 
>>> ones hitting him. If the front cyclists got past, and it was ones 
>>> further down in the pack that hit him, it tells me that there is
nothing 
>>> wrong with his stopping action, but it was the cyclists were riding
too 
>>> close to each other to be able to A) see the unexpected and B) react
to 
>>> the unexpected.
>>
>>
>> Precisely. For a hypothetical, try reversing the situation...........
>>
>> 5 cars driving nose to tail. The front car comes upon a cyclist and at 
>> the last minute swerves to pass the bike. The other 4 cars, driving to 
>> close to the car in front, don't have time to react and run straight
over 
>> the cyclist.
>> Who does Trevor think would be at fault there?
>
> **Try reversing the situation and I'll attempt to answer. Your scenario 
> doesn't come close.

**In fact, I'll do it for you:

Cyclist swerves into the right hand lane, in front of several vehicles, 
travelling at high speed. The cyclist slams his brakes on, thus causing
the 
cars to crash into him and each other.

IMO, the cyclist, if he is still alive, should be locked up for the rest
of 
his life. Clearly, the cyclist is at fault. Additionally, he should be 
forced to pay the full costs of damage to the vehicles concerned.

Same deal with this idiot motorist, who caused the lives of 50 cyclists to

be placed at risk. I hope they take his driver's license away and lock the

bastard up. His property should be sold to pay for any damage caused, 
because I doubt insurance would cover it. His story is simply not 
believable.

Trevor Wilson
 




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Sydney Bicycle accident
Online News Server <ne  2008-05-11 01:48:59 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-11 05:07:42 
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Doug Jewell <ask@[EMAI  2008-05-11 07:39:17 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-11 08:56:27 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-11 11:08:53 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-11 14:15:47 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-11 17:52:56 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-11 18:31:06 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-11 20:38:10 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-11 21:29:27 
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jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-14 18:40:44 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-05-12 14:39:05 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-14 06:30:53 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-14 06:39:43 
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Doug Jewell <ask@[EMAI  2008-05-14 07:44:37 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-14 07:54:12 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-14 13:38:10 
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jonz <fj40@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 18:40:05 
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"Klompmeester"   2008-05-12 23:19:05 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-05-14 23:42:53 
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"Trevor Wilson"  2008-05-11 19:43:36 
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the fonz <arthur.fonzz  2008-05-11 02:21:49 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-11 20:46:57 
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