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Re: Theftlink?

by Neil Fisher <neil@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 14, 2008 at 10:00 AM

On Tue, 13 May 2008 09:19:19 +1000, "Just JT"
<Johnnythor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, after considering some belly-button fluf,
wrote:

>
>"Neil Fisher" <neil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 18:53:05 +1000, "Just JT"
>> <JohnnyThor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, after considering some belly-button fluf,
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Alan K." <No@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>GovCo.should.do.what.is.right.not.what.is.popular.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah.when.you.find.an.example.of.them.doing.that.let.us.know.
>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>Speed laws are right and justified.
>>
>> All of them? Always?
>>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>No, some of the limits are TOO HIGH. For example in the cul de sac where
I 
>live, the speed limit should be 40kph as the street is narrow and lots of

>kids along the park/reserve.

Surely the speed *limit* should represent the fastest speed you could
reasonable expect to do safely under *good conditions*? Let me clarify
what I mean - I wouldn't sup****t an 80km/h limit on Sydney's M5 simply
because in peak hour the average speed is considerably less than this.
After all, it's not always peak hour (or school drop off/ pick-up time
etc), and so the *limit* should be what a reasonable person would do
in the face of no other limiting cir***stances (eg traffic [inc peds],
rain, enforcement etc etc) - 85th percentile speed, IOW. This speed,
BTW, has been shown in many studies to be the safest speed under those
cir***stances. Not only that, it's your beloved "market forces" at
their finest.

But we don't get that speed because a minority of brain-dead,
loud-mouthed whingers propose a lower limit, and the Govt. Dept.'s and
elected representatives who make the decisions on these matters want
to a) be seen to be doing something and b) make sure their propoganda
on speed is never contradicted. Add in that there is no way for a
citizen to challange those rulings and we have... the totally crap
system we have now, where we are told: that things are worse than they
were last year even though they're actually better; that slower speeds
will reduce KSI crashes and so save society money without considering
the (considerable) extra cost of extended travel times; that when a
policy doesn't deliver on it's promises, it's not because the policy
is based on wrong assumptions, but because people "didn't get the
message"; that someone on their own private crusade to "stop what
happened to me happening to anyone else" is not only the "good guy",
but is right, despite the fact that it's more likely they were just
unlucky / stupid / badly trained that is the root cause of the
problem; "average" driving skills are a sufficient determinant of
whether you should have a license (as opposed to objective standards).

I'll stop there, but there are plenty more...

In fact, IMO there's only one scam that exceeds the folly of the
"speed kills" brigade, and that's the global warming junta - a bigger
storm in a tea-cup I have never seen, and hope to never see again when
it's finally exposed as the sham it so clearly is.

Neil
---
Neil Fisher / Bob Young
Thundercords
personal opinion unless otherwise noted.
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Theftlink?
Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-09 13:17:59 
Re: Theftlink?
"Just JT" <J  2008-05-09 14:18:13 
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jackbadger56 <castle56  2008-05-08 22:24:42 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-05-09 15:55:05 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-09 15:57:11 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-09 21:02:46 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-09 21:53:10 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-09 22:06:53 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-09 22:35:18 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-10 00:16:44 
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"The Raven" <  2008-05-09 22:57:50 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-10 00:19:02 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-05-09 15:24:08 
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John McKenzie <jmac_me  2008-05-09 21:49:42 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-05-10 03:00:31 
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John McKenzie <jmac_me  2008-05-11 04:02:55 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-11 20:51:45 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-09 12:54:59 
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jackbadger56 <castle56  2008-05-08 23:11:56 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-09 16:31:58 
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Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-05-09 08:26:37 
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jackbadger56 <castle56  2008-05-08 23:35:18 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-09 16:54:43 
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Kev <kevcat@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-12 01:48:22 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-05-09 17:54:57 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-09 20:48:24 
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ausmartin <ausmartin@[  2008-05-09 14:27:02 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-10 11:56:56 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-10 13:19:17 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-10 15:47:26 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-10 17:39:43 
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Sylvia Else <sylvia@[E  2008-05-14 15:09:10 
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"Bobman" <no  2008-05-10 22:14:49 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-10 22:29:03 
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Alan K. <No@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 13:48:34 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-11 18:09:28 
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Alan K. <No@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 18:43:55 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-11 18:53:05 
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Alan K. <No@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 19:25:10 
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Neil Fisher <neil@[EMA  2008-05-12 14:30:41 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-13 09:19:19 
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Neil Fisher <neil@[EMA  2008-05-14 10:00:28 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-14 14:16:39 
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Bernd Felsche <berfel@  2008-05-14 15:19:28 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-14 17:51:32 
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Snapper <snapper1@[EMA  2008-05-25 19:28:38 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-25 20:11:43 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-25 20:25:32 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-25 20:49:30 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-25 20:54:07 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-25 21:04:58 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-25 21:11:26 
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"Kwyjibo" <k  2008-05-25 22:25:11 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-25 13:30:02 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-25 13:00:36 
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"Just JT" <J  2008-05-25 23:12:18 
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Sylvia Else <sylvia@[E  2008-05-26 10:16:07 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-26 11:30:42 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-26 02:52:38 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-26 15:00:43 
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jackbadger56 <castle56  2008-05-12 00:20:45 
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Pit <spamlister@[EMAIL  2008-05-13 23:03:50 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-14 06:13:32 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-14 16:34:05 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-14 07:50:15 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-14 19:20:15 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-14 20:30:31 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-14 23:26:43 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-15 18:16:03 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-05-14 14:19:50 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-15 19:00:47 
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"George W. Frost&quo  2008-05-15 10:17:41 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-15 10:28:55 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-15 21:06:25 
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Bernd Felsche <berfel@  2008-05-15 19:58:09 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-15 22:15:55 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-15 12:59:30 
Getting into Hot Water (was: Theftlink?)
Bernd Felsche <berfel@  2008-05-16 00:07:51 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-16 00:22:33 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-15 12:42:54 
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Bernd Felsche <berfel@  2008-05-15 22:51:13 
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Daryl Walford <dwalfor  2008-05-16 18:07:07 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-14 16:32:41 
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Neil Fisher <neil@[EMA  2008-05-15 08:47:02 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-15 04:40:08 
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John McKenzie <jmac_me  2008-05-15 13:26:27 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-16 00:33:17 
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Athol <athol_SPIT_SPAM  2008-05-16 00:26:23 
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John McKenzie <jmac_me  2008-05-16 01:09:40 
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John McKenzie <jmac_me  2008-05-09 04:45:49 
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"David Z" <d  2008-05-09 13:28:32 
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John McKenzie <jmac_me  2008-05-09 21:51:32 
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atec77 <atec77NOSPAM@[  2008-05-10 08:12:08 
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Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-05-09 08:24:02 
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"Bobman" <no  2008-05-10 22:12:38 
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Phil <philip.roper@[EM  2008-05-13 19:26:06 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-14 14:15:07 
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Sylvia Else <sylvia@[E  2008-05-14 15:32:40 
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"David Z" <d  2008-05-14 11:47:37 
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"Noddy" <me@  2008-05-14 23:29:20 
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"David Z" <d  2008-05-14 14:29:59 
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Bernd Felsche <berfel@  2008-05-15 10:13:17 
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