Re: Sydney Bicycle accident

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Noddy" <me@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> **We're not the same. I'm pretty certain that if I killed someone, it 
>>> would bother me for quite some time.
>>
>> I never said I'd enjoy it, but if it wasn't my fault and it happened to

>> be some ****ing idiot doing something stupid I wouldn't be terribly 
>> upset.
>>
>> If it was a kid running out of a driveway chasing a ball it'd be a 
>> different story completely.
>
> **Perhaps. I know a woman who killed a drunk pedestrian (she escaped 
> charges, since the silly old fart had a 0.2 reading, according to the 
> coroner). Last time I spoke to her, she was still in therapy, ten years 
> after the event. Killing another human, for most people, is a traumatic 
> thing.
>
>>
>>> **Obviously, you've missed the Dykes on Bikes (my favourites).
>>
>> I'm sure they're great, but there's no need to *look* like them just to

>> take a bicycle for a ride :)
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> **They ride half ****d. Of course, a goodly number are pretty damned 
> unpleasant to look at, but, hey, tits are tits.
>
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>>> **I often toddle down to my favourite coffee shop/patisserie some 
>>> mornings. Around 7:00AM. It happens to be on The Grande Parade, at 
>>> Brighton (Sydney). It is on the same piece of road that the riders 
>>> probably ride on. There are a *lot* of riders who ride past (though
some 
>>> of the not so dedicated ones, stop for a coffee and cake) at that time

>>> of day. Almost all ride two abreast in the kerbside lane. Whilst I 
>>> cannot say, I'd bet your balls that I've seen that same group ride
past. 
>>> They ride properly and considerately. Hell, they even stop for the 
>>> pedestrian crossing.
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>> Next time you see them do that congratulate them for being decent
people 
>> :)
>>
>> In Melbourne we have a notorious road for cyclists and it's caused it's

>> fair share of problems. If you don't know it Beach Road, as the name 
>> suggests, is a long scenic road that follows the coast from St.Kilda
all 
>> the way to Frankston, and it's extemely popular with cyclists and in 
>> particular one group of "rebel" cyclists who conduct a regular week-end

>> event called the hell ride. This hell ride can consist of anything up
to 
>> a couple hundred cyclists on any given day (particularly if the weather

>> is great), and it's not at all uncommon to be driving along Beach Road
to 
>> have these riders stretched out over a few kilometers hogging as much
of 
>> the road as they like in the process.
>
> **Now that would be annoying. 40 or 50 cyclists is not too bad. Several 
> hundred would be extremely frustrating for other road users.


A total backflip by the infamous Trevor Wilson
By that little statement Trevor Wilson,, you have killed off your original

argument


>> Around 12 months or so ago such a hell ride was in effect when a 
>> pedestrian, an elderly man who was just out for a Saturday morning walk

>> with his grandkids, was knocked down and killed while he was using a 
>> pedestrian crossing by one of these "hell riders" who went through the 
>> crossing without stopping.
>>
>> Apparently there were a bunch of cyclists who had stopped but the
cyclist 
>> who struck the old guy decided not to stop and sail right through the 
>> group to improve his place in the race. Unfortunately for him, and the 
>> old man, when riding through the group of stationary cyclists he
couldn't 
>> see the old man crossing the road and ploughed straight into him.
>>
>> Now, the reason why I mention this story is not because of the poor old

>> bloke getting killed or the ****wit cyclist being a ****wit cyclist who

>> caused his death, but because of some of the comments that came from
the 
>> *other* cyclists who were sitting there waiting for the old guy to
cross. 
>> Almost every one of them to a man defended the guilty cyclist to a
degree 
>> in the media by trying to ****ft the blame onto the crossing, or the sun

>> in his eyes as he approached. I even read the comment of one who said 
>> that the old man should have been aware that it might have been likely 
>> that someone wouldn't stop as it was common practice.
>
> **Clearly, that is an obscenity. Pedestrian crossings are for
pedestrians. 
> There's no excuse for not stopping.


Another backflip by the infamous Trevor Wilson



>> The point being is that even when one of their own did something 
>> *horribly* wrong, the rest of the pack stuck by him and defended him 
>> regardless to the point where they looked like ****ing tossers and they

>> generated *enormous* hatred towards themselves, and it's not completely

>> beyond the realm of possibility that the same thing *might* be
happening 
>> up around your part of the world.
>
> **I am unaware of anyone being killed by a cyclist up here, though I
guess 
> it may have happened. The only *****ing about cyclists, from pedestrians

> that occurs up here, relate to those bicycle couriers. And rightfully
so.
>
>>
>>> **Agreed. I guess we'll have to wait for the police re****ts.
>>
>> We will indeed.
>>
>> For the record, and as I said previously, if the car driver's actions 
>> were deliberate then I think he should be taken to with a baseball bat
by 
>> every cyclist who was present on the day.
>
> **Yep, I'm well aware of your position.
>
> Trevor Wilson
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