Re: Sydney Bicycle accident

<duncanmcrae@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 14, 11:55 pm, "George W. Frost" <fro...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> <duncanmc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > On May 14, 10:27 am, Athol <athol_SPIT_S...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> Noddy <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> > <duncanmc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> >> And where.. prey tell.. do I find these exclusive parts of the
road
>> >> >> space?
>> >> > Never seen a bike lane, huh?
>>
>> >> Or a cycleway.  Separate "roads" for bicycles and pedestrians only.
>>
>> > we are discussing roads..
>>
>> >   duncan
>>
>> Yes, we are discussing roads, where the priority should be for the
motor
>> vehicle, not a bicycle,
>
> No. Priority is for 'vehicles', which include bicycles.


Not when a bicycle rider gets the first word in.
which they generally do because of the media sensing a story


>> The bicycle rider has got total priority over anything and everything
on
>> cycle paths, everything must keep out of their way
>
>  Which don't exist. Cycle paths (at least here in sydney) are always
> shared, and pedstrians (and their dogs etc) have priority.

You try telling that to the cyclists in Victoria


>> The bicycle rider has got almost total priority over pedestrians on the
>> footpath, pedestrians must keep out of their way
>
> Illegal in NSW for bicycles to ride on footpaths (excluding kids, but
> again, peds have right of way)


Again, not here in Vic, the bicycle rider is encouraged to ride on the 
footpath
it keeps them off the road and "safe"


>> The bicycle rider has got almost total priority over anything and 
>> everything
>> on the roads, cars must keep out of their way
>
> How so? Road rules apply to cyclists, too.


Not when it it refers to pack riders, according to them


>> The bicycle rider has got the Victorian Government to back down on its 
>> rule
>> of no bicycles on trains during peak periods
>
> In NSW, we have to buy an extra ticket.


Victorian bicycle riders would take you to the Supreme Court if necessary
to 
object and claim discrimination


>> Where next is the bicycle rider going to claim total priority ?
>
>  More to the point, where do they now, other than in your mind?


not in my mind Duncan, in Victoria

> You seem to have some sort of persecution complex going on.
>
>    duncan

Not really Duncan, you seem to have the inpression that you and bicycle 
riders are being persecuted