Re: Sydney Bicycle accident

"George W. Frost" <frosty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Noddy" <me@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> **We're not the same. I'm pretty certain that if I killed someone, it

>>>> would bother me for quite some time.
>>>
>>> I never said I'd enjoy it, but if it wasn't my fault and it happened
to 
>>> be some ****ing idiot doing something stupid I wouldn't be terribly 
>>> upset.
>>>
>>> If it was a kid running out of a driveway chasing a ball it'd be a 
>>> different story completely.
>>
>> **Perhaps. I know a woman who killed a drunk pedestrian (she escaped 
>> charges, since the silly old fart had a 0.2 reading, according to the 
>> coroner). Last time I spoke to her, she was still in therapy, ten years

>> after the event. Killing another human, for most people, is a traumatic

>> thing.
>>
>>>
>>>> **Obviously, you've missed the Dykes on Bikes (my favourites).
>>>
>>> I'm sure they're great, but there's no need to *look* like them just
to 
>>> take a bicycle for a ride :)
>>
>> **They ride half ****d. Of course, a goodly number are pretty damned 
>> unpleasant to look at, but, hey, tits are tits.
>>
>>>
>>>> **I often toddle down to my favourite coffee shop/patisserie some 
>>>> mornings. Around 7:00AM. It happens to be on The Grande Parade, at 
>>>> Brighton (Sydney). It is on the same piece of road that the riders 
>>>> probably ride on. There are a *lot* of riders who ride past (though 
>>>> some of the not so dedicated ones, stop for a coffee and cake) at
that 
>>>> time of day. Almost all ride two abreast in the kerbside lane. Whilst
I 
>>>> cannot say, I'd bet your balls that I've seen that same group ride 
>>>> past. They ride properly and considerately. Hell, they even stop for 
>>>> the pedestrian crossing.
>>>
>>> Next time you see them do that congratulate them for being decent
people 
>>> :)
>>>
>>> In Melbourne we have a notorious road for cyclists and it's caused
it's 
>>> fair share of problems. If you don't know it Beach Road, as the name 
>>> suggests, is a long scenic road that follows the coast from St.Kilda
all 
>>> the way to Frankston, and it's extemely popular with cyclists and in 
>>> particular one group of "rebel" cyclists who conduct a regular
week-end 
>>> event called the hell ride. This hell ride can consist of anything up
to 
>>> a couple hundred cyclists on any given day (particularly if the
weather 
>>> is great), and it's not at all uncommon to be driving along Beach Road

>>> to have these riders stretched out over a few kilometers hogging as
much 
>>> of the road as they like in the process.
>>
>> **Now that would be annoying. 40 or 50 cyclists is not too bad. Several

>> hundred would be extremely frustrating for other road users.
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> A total backflip by the infamous Trevor Wilson
> By that little statement Trevor Wilson,, you have killed off your
original 
> argument

**Cite where I stated that several hundred cyclists might not be
frustatubg 
to other road users. There are many instances where road users can
frustrate 
other types of road users. A truck overtaking another truck, for instance.

>
>
>>> Around 12 months or so ago such a hell ride was in effect when a 
>>> pedestrian, an elderly man who was just out for a Saturday morning
walk 
>>> with his grandkids, was knocked down and killed while he was using a 
>>> pedestrian crossing by one of these "hell riders" who went through the

>>> crossing without stopping.
>>>
>>> Apparently there were a bunch of cyclists who had stopped but the 
>>> cyclist who struck the old guy decided not to stop and sail right 
>>> through the group to improve his place in the race. Unfortunately for 
>>> him, and the old man, when riding through the group of stationary 
>>> cyclists he couldn't see the old man crossing the road and ploughed 
>>> straight into him.
>>>
>>> Now, the reason why I mention this story is not because of the poor
old 
>>> bloke getting killed or the ****wit cyclist being a ****wit cyclist
who 
>>> caused his death, but because of some of the comments that came from
the 
>>> *other* cyclists who were sitting there waiting for the old guy to 
>>> cross. Almost every one of them to a man defended the guilty cyclist
to 
>>> a degree in the media by trying to ****ft the blame onto the crossing,
or 
>>> the sun in his eyes as he approached. I even read the comment of one
who 
>>> said that the old man should have been aware that it might have been 
>>> likely that someone wouldn't stop as it was common practice.
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>> **Clearly, that is an obscenity. Pedestrian crossings are for 
>> pedestrians. There's no excuse for not stopping.
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> Another backflip by the infamous Trevor Wilson

**Really? Cite where I defended cyclists from breaking the law.

I won't hold my breath waiting for your cites.

Trevor Wilson