Re: Sydney Bicycle accident

"George W. Frost" <frosty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "George W. Frost" <frosty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> **We're not the same. I'm pretty certain that if I killed someone,
it
>>>>>> would bother me for quite some time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I never said I'd enjoy it, but if it wasn't my fault and it happened
>>>>> to be some ****ing idiot doing something stupid I wouldn't be
terribly
>>>>> upset.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it was a kid running out of a driveway chasing a ball it'd be a
>>>>> different story completely.
>>>>
>>>> **Perhaps. I know a woman who killed a drunk pedestrian (she escaped
>>>> charges, since the silly old fart had a 0.2 reading, according to the
>>>> coroner). Last time I spoke to her, she was still in therapy, ten
years
>>>> after the event. Killing another human, for most people, is a
traumatic
>>>> thing.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> **Obviously, you've missed the Dykes on Bikes (my favourites).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure they're great, but there's no need to *look* like them just
>>>>> to take a bicycle for a ride :)
>>>>
>>>> **They ride half ****d. Of course, a goodly number are pretty damned
>>>> unpleasant to look at, but, hey, tits are tits.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> **I often toddle down to my favourite coffee shop/patisserie some
>>>>>> mornings. Around 7:00AM. It happens to be on The Grande Parade, at
>>>>>> Brighton (Sydney). It is on the same piece of road that the riders
>>>>>> probably ride on. There are a *lot* of riders who ride past (though
>>>>>> some of the not so dedicated ones, stop for a coffee and cake) at
>>>>>> that time of day. Almost all ride two abreast in the kerbside lane.
>>>>>> Whilst I cannot say, I'd bet your balls that I've seen that same
>>>>>> group ride past. They ride properly and considerately. Hell, they
>>>>>> even stop for the pedestrian crossing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next time you see them do that congratulate them for being decent
>>>>> people :)
>>>>>
>>>>> In Melbourne we have a notorious road for cyclists and it's caused
>>>>> it's fair share of problems. If you don't know it Beach Road, as the
>>>>> name suggests, is a long scenic road that follows the coast from
>>>>> St.Kilda all the way to Frankston, and it's extemely popular with
>>>>> cyclists and in particular one group of "rebel" cyclists who conduct
a
>>>>> regular week-end event called the hell ride. This hell ride can
>>>>> consist of anything up to a couple hundred cyclists on any given day
>>>>> (particularly if the weather is great), and it's not at all uncommon
>>>>> to be driving along Beach Road to have these riders stretched out
over
>>>>> a few kilometers hogging as much of the road as they like in the
>>>>> process.
>>>>
>>>> **Now that would be annoying. 40 or 50 cyclists is not too bad.
Several
>>>> hundred would be extremely frustrating for other road users.
>>>
>>>
>>> A total backflip by the infamous Trevor Wilson
>>> By that little statement Trevor Wilson,, you have killed off your
>>> original argument
>>
>> **Cite where I stated that several hundred cyclists might not be
>> frustatubg to other road users. There are many instances where road
users
>> can frustrate other types of road users. A truck overtaking another
>> truck, for instance.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Around 12 months or so ago such a hell ride was in effect when a
>>>>> pedestrian, an elderly man who was just out for a Saturday morning
>>>>> walk with his grandkids, was knocked down and killed while he was
>>>>> using a pedestrian crossing by one of these "hell riders" who went
>>>>> through the crossing without stopping.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently there were a bunch of cyclists who had stopped but the
>>>>> cyclist who struck the old guy decided not to stop and sail right
>>>>> through the group to improve his place in the race. Unfortunately
for
>>>>> him, and the old man, when riding through the group of stationary
>>>>> cyclists he couldn't see the old man crossing the road and ploughed
>>>>> straight into him.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, the reason why I mention this story is not because of the poor
>>>>> old bloke getting killed or the ****wit cyclist being a ****wit
>>>>> cyclist who caused his death, but because of some of the comments
that
>>>>> came from the *other* cyclists who were sitting there waiting for
the
>>>>> old guy to cross. Almost every one of them to a man defended the
>>>>> guilty cyclist to a degree in the media by trying to ****ft the blame
>>>>> onto the crossing, or the sun in his eyes as he approached. I even
>>>>> read the comment of one who said that the old man should have been
>>>>> aware that it might have been likely that someone wouldn't stop as
it
>>>>> was common practice.
>>>>
>>>> **Clearly, that is an obscenity. Pedestrian crossings are for
>>>> pedestrians. There's no excuse for not stopping.
>>>
>>>
>>> Another backflip by the infamous Trevor Wilson
>>
>> **Really? Cite where I defended cyclists from breaking the law.
>>
>> I won't hold my breath waiting for your cites.
>>
>> Trevor Wilson
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> I don't have to,

**LOL! You can't cite what I never said. Just as I figured, you are full
of
piss and wind.

 you have already said it and I am not going to repeat your
> garbage
> And if you don't remember what you have said, then  you are talking
> bull****

**I remember EXACTLY what I said. You, OTOH, are just imagining. Go take
your meds and have a nice lie down. You'll feel better in the morning.

> As the saying goes, you never have to remember when you tell the truth

**Like I said.....

Trevor Wilson



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