Noddy wrote:
>
> "John McKenzie" <jmac_melbourne@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:482BC097.6EE8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Jesus Christ - I know there's some margin of safety engineered into
max
> > dosages (8 per day if anyone cares) - but at 20 - you seriously are
> > risking death - and it could be severe enough to have rebound and
> > complications (within hours of taking them) that mimic high blood
> > pressure, and angina, and prevent sleep etc.
>
> Yeah, I've got most of those, and liver counts 6 times higher than the
> accepted norm.
>
> > It's probably more the paracetemol imho. ****ing hell - can't you get
> > them to prescribe oxycontin or percocent or whatever they are called
> > here - they use oxycodone, which is far more effective (at lower
doses,
> > and as such with lower concomitant amounts of paracetemol) than
codeine
> > ever could be. The problem with codeine, aside from that mentioned, is
> > it has to be converted (I think in the liver but can't recall) into
> > something else - some other type of opiate. In typical subjects,
there's
> > only enough enzyme or whatever to convert around 400mg tops in one go,
> > or possibly one day, so beyond that, you aren't going to gain much
> > anyway, you'll just think you are.
>
> Oh yeah, there's a placebo effect associated with it, which is why I'm
now
> back down to 8-10 a day rather than 20.
>
> > In that situation, I'd definitely be looking at the oxycontin or
> > whatever the equiv is. With your chronic injury, and ongoing
> > complications from the ****ed up hip surgery (if I recall correctly)
> > you'd surely qualify.
>
> I'll talk to my quack about it.
>
> Last time I spoke to him he mentioned herbal jazz cigarettes (medically
> prescribed) might be worth a shot as I'm already a smoker, and while I
> thought about it for a while I decided against it as I never liked
cannabis
> and whenever I experimented with it socially all it did was gave me a
> whacking great headache.
I'm seriously about the least knowledgeable person on that topic, but
the general consensus is, afaik, that the typical hydro grown stuff is
like a sledgehammer, no improvement to mood, just makes you a complete
dead ****. Apparently the older, less powerful strains, and, for
whatever else it means, outdoor grown stuff is less like that, and far
more useful in the chemo/pain management/appetite restoration criteria.
I also didn't like the idea of walking around
> ripped all day and then trying to do anything constructive as I have
enough
> trouble now just getting zonked on the pain killers.
that seems somewhat universal - dope seems to be somewhat of an ambition
killer. I heard something funny the other day (well a little) - in most
places in the nth east of the USA, the slang term dope specifically
refers to heroin, not mary jane - go figure...
>
> Still, I could always get a kilo a week and sell it :)
That reminds me of a rumour that Carl Williams actually tried to
convince police that 7000 eccies were for personal use.
--
John McKenzie
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