Re: When to replace radiator and heater hoses

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> > >> > We have a 94 & 95 T&C, great vans.
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> > >> > Only problem is they suck gas like there's no tomorrow. 15-18Mpg
is
> > >> > pretty
> > >> > standard for mixed city/highway usage.
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> > >> > Ted
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> > >> The Mini trip computer in mine is currently showing 22.1 MPG over
the
> > >> last
> > >> 2070 miles (I never reset it).
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> > > Yep, if your running 90-100% highway you probably will get that.
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> > > What's your 50-50 city/highway mix mpg? (this is a T&T right?
Running
> > > 100% gasoline, not 10% ethanol mix? Many Caravans had the 3.3L which
> > > is better mpg)
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> > > Ted
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> > The number I posted is for a 2WD 3.3 GC SE on E10 89 octane gas. Today
I
> > did some around town driving and it dropped back to 22.0. I calculated
my
> > average speed via the trip miles and elapsed time displays and got
about
> > 33MPH. I normally still set the cruise for 54 on the highway for my
86.2
> > mile round trip that I take twice a week. The rest of my trips are so
> short
> > that the engine barely gets to operating temp before it is shut off
again.
> > I plan to start using the non-ethanol 87 octane gas even though it is
10
> > cents more expensive here as it will take less than a 1 mpg
improvement
to
> > make up for the extra cost. The grades here are 87, 89, and 91 with 89
> and
> > 91 being E10. Currently 87 is $3.489/Gallon and 89 is $3.389/Gallon
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> Oregon has mandated E10 for all gasoline by end of year so we won't get
a
> choice. It's already mandated for winter months in metro areas due to
smog
> reduction. I just filled up my motorcycle today - the lowest price
cheapest
> lowest
> octane fuel is $3.47/gallon. Count yourself lucky!
>
> The T&C comes standard with the 3.8L It really makes a big difference in
> the mpg. When you have the extra power on tap you tend to drive with a
> heavier foot because you know you can pass the boneheads. When you
> know you can't pass them, you tend to give up and just let it ride.
> My wife's van generally runs 17mpg when she drives it but she is
> usually exclusively city driving. When I drive my van - which is also an
> AWD
> - it's around 15mpg. It also doesen't help
> that my daily commute includes a 3 mile 5% grade hill. Going up the hill
in
> the
> morning your just burning the fuel, and coming back down it in the
evening
> you can't coast because the boneheads in front of you seem to feel it is
a
> requirement to ride the brakes the whole damn way down.
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How does fuel system components on older vehicles hold up to E10?


No problem.  Oregon in the Portland area has mandated E10 for the
last decade during the winter.  The reason is that during sunny cold
winter days in Portland there is this thing that happens where the early
is foggy, then as long as it's sunny there is this air inversion thing
that
basically makes the air stop moving in and out of the city - it just
sits there stagnant.  And then you can start smelling and seeing the
smog. They mandated E10 as so-called "oxygenated" fuel with the
hope that it would reduce HC's with a more complete burn and reduce
smog below the federal air quality requirements so the federal
government couldn't fine the state anymore.

Ted