On May 4, 3:22=A0am, Bill Putney <b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Waho wrote:
> > I've seen that kind of clutch burn out if the shop failed to soak the
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w
> > clutch in AFT before they were installed. =A0 If the clutches were put
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n the
> > transmission dry, they won't last more that a few hundred miles.
=A0The =
use of
> > Dexron will make it shift horribly but I doubt that the use of Dexron
wo=
uld
> > "burn" the clutchs that fast. =A0Either way, the shop is at fault.
=A0No=
t much
> > of a transmission shop if they don't know to use ATF+4.
>
> I bet if you surveyed the local tranny shops where you are, better than
> 90% would tell you they would use Dexron with an additive vs. ATF+4.
> The aftermarket service world is eat up with bad information.
>
> I called four shops in my area (two of which were highly recommended by
> everybody and their brother) and asked them what fluid they would use in
> my 2nd gen LH car, and all four said they'd use Dexron with additive.
=A0I=
> changed the fluid myself.
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> address with the letter 'x')
This seems to be fairly common. I had the transmission in my 1993
Voyager rebuilt last August. When I went to pick it up, I ask the shop
owner what they filled the transmission with. He said that he used
dexron with Lube Guard. When I expressed my concerns, he pulled the
empty bottle out of the garbage, and showed me where it says that it
meets Chrysler's requirements. The shop has been in business for many
years, and does warranty work for several dealers.
Anyway, the transmission is working fine so far. The Automatic
Transmissions Rebuilder's Association warranty runs out in August. At
that time, I will probably replace the fuild myself and use ATF+4,
just for my own peace of mind. Chrysler labeled ATF+4 can be bought at
Walmart for about $4.50 per quart.
I can understand why shops do not want to stock every kind of fluid
that is required by each manufacturer. At the same time, the
transmission fluid issue has been covered extensively in this NG. The
general opinon has been to use the recommend fluid, which is now ATF
+4.
On another note, in my van's early days, I used to take it to the
local Chrysler / Plymouth dealer for transmission service. Each time,
they would replace the fluid with ATF+3 (that's what was available at
the time) along with a "conditioner." When asked them about the
conditioner, they said that it was to ensure that new fluid would mix
okay with the older fluid. When I mentioned that Chrysler does not
recommend any additives, he stood by his position.
I still don't know what the additive was, or who made it. I tend it
was a way for them to make a few extra dollars.
-KM
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