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Re: pre-ignition - need explaination

by "Jim Warman" <mechanic@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 4, 2008 at 02:28 AM

HT, you have a very good grasp on the subject of pre-ignition... A gold
star 
for you 8^)

Anything that will cause the combustion event to occur early can give 
pre-ignition... this can be as simple as improperly adjusted base timing, 
inadequate fuel  quality, any kind of "hot spot" in the combustion chamber

or even having the compression ratio being influenced by deposits....

Unmetered air might be a vacuum leak or, if it is upstream of the throttle

plates, it wouldn't be a vacuum leak and there would be subtle differences

in the affect. In 1986, however, I don't recall Ford having much to do
with 
anything other than speed/density based systems.

For the OP.... it is normal for spark plug electrodes to suffer from 
erosion... Pre-ignition will tend to leave deposits on the ground
electrode 
if it is severe or has been left unattended for any length of time...
There 
will be an accompanying , unmistakeable noise under acceleration. At this 
point, I am left to doubt that pre-ignition or engine "ping" is part of
the 
complaint. If your mechanic equates worn electrodes with pre-ignition, I 
would get worried (Elmer Fudd told us to "Be afwaid... be vewy, vewy 
afwaid").

If this vehicle is, indeed, a 1986.... IIRC, Ford used a "negative
feedback" 
type EGR valve... There is a small ****t inside the valve that can carbon 
over and this would have the effect of having the car "nose over" on light

acceleration... In effect, the EGR valve opens too far, too early. Going
to 
WOT (wide open throttle) seems to "cure" the problem - this is because at 
low RPM WOT, manifold vacuum drops to very close to atmospheric pressure. 
Without sufficient vacuum, the EGR valve closes and the problem seems to
go 
away.

If the car is an Explorer... one would need to know the year and,
possibly, 
the engine "flavour" to say anything meaningful.
 




 8 Posts in Topic:
pre-ignition - need explaination
"Scott C" <s  2008-05-03 10:09:33 
Re: pre-ignition - need explaination
"Ulysses" <e  2008-05-03 12:36:22 
Re: pre-ignition - need explaination
"Happy Traveler"  2008-05-03 12:58:59 
Re: pre-ignition - need explaination
"Happy Traveler"  2008-05-03 14:41:30 
Re: pre-ignition - need explaination
"Jim Warman" &l  2008-05-04 02:28:34 
Re: pre-ignition - need explaination
"Happy Traveler"  2008-05-04 15:53:01 
Re: pre-ignition - need explaination
"Jim Warman" &l  2008-05-05 00:56:28 
Re: pre-ignition - need explaination
"Scott C" <s  2008-05-05 09:00:10 

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