Yikes, Jim, you must have really had a rotten day! Usually when you
let someone have it, they well deserve it! This poor guy though - are
you trying to scare him off from asking advice? He OBVIOUSLY doesn't
know much about cars (isn't even sure if his own car has six
cylinders). He knows he has leaking freeze plugs (two different techs
have pointed this out) and intends to get them replaced (no denial here
that I can see). One tech, however, tells him that he has a leaking
head gasket, another tells him no. Now he asks if a leaking gasket is
a difficult thing for a trained tech to spot - should he get a third
opinion.
Why beat up on the poor guy?
(I'm sure you've noticed that I, also, am top posting. Always have,
always will, but I don't feel the need to make a big issue of it.)
Now you can tear into me. I probably do deserve it after that last
statement.
On 2008-07-16 23:16:31 -0500, <mechanic@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
> Or it may add even more fuel to the "who do you trust" fire..... You can
> have someone "low ball" the quote because you "look good for the money".
> Don't be surprised when surprises happen....
>
> I don't know what your "day job" is... I do know that it isn't
> automotive....
>
> At some point in time, you will need to decide on who you will trust and
who
> you wont.... You want my (or anyones) advice - SIGHT UNSEEN - because
you
> are looking for cheaper...
>
> You downplay leaking freeze plugs.... your car is 14 ****ing years
old....
> **** gets old, you go into denial, I get fed up and leave.... I don't
spend
> money - you do...
>
> Enjoy...
>
> Why the **** do I do this?
>
>
>
>
> "Erik" <groups@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
news:54e3395e-0238-4792-900b-0ba1ac5bb765@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Jul 16, 7:54 pm, <mecha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> The head gasket issue is up for grabs.. I will not comment on that at
this
>> point in time.....
>
> That's a critical point, however. For example, if the mechanic that
> wants $900 spotted something that the mechanic that quoted $170 did
> not, then that would suggest gasket issues are difficult to spot. If
> such an issue is relatively easy to spot (to a trained eye), then the
> first mechanic may be trying to fleece me. In any case, I think I may
> try to get a third mechanic to take a look at the vehicle. That
> should (hopefully) put an end to the question.
>
>>
>> However... your motor has two frost plugs that are leaking.... Two out
of
>> many... The 94 Explorer isn't something I work on every day.... but I'd
>> guess at least 10 frost plugs. If two are leaking... how long before
>> others
>> are leaking? Read my lips "I DON'T KNOW"... and neither do you... nor
>> anyone
>> else...
>
> I wasn't asking about when the plugs would start leaking. Based on
> the fact that the two leaking plugs were found easily, I would think
> that plugs are easy to spot to a trained eye. In either case, the
> gasket issue is still the one that needs to be determined.
>
>>
>> Would I be far wrong in assuming you don't know the last time the
cooling
>> system had a service performed?
>>
>
> No, you wouldn't be wrong, although my car was looked at due to
> overheating issues a couple of years ago. I don't remember the exact
> parts that were replaced, but it didn't amount to more than a few
> hundred dollars. Certainly not the $900 the above mentioned mechanic
> wants. I was assured at the time that there was no significant damage
> to the engine and its constituent parts. I think it largely came down
> to the thermostat, but I don't remember exactly.
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