Re: OT - So Michael...

Michael Johnson <cds@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in 
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> Joe wrote:
>> <big snip>
>> 
>> And we've come full circle back to how to change the system so that 
it 
>> actually works...
> 
> Looking at the past it seems to me that something catastrophic has to 
> occur to the general population before serious action is demanded by 
the 
> public.  You can see it happening with Obama.  His sup****ters really 
> want to believe the words coming out of his mouth but his is just a 
> typical tax and spend politician.  They think that since his skin is 
> black he will actually change things.  He won't change anything.  All 
> this stuff he claims he will deliver would bankrupt us in short order 
so 
> he isn't the answer.

We're already bankrupt.  :)  BTW, thanks for trimming the thread.

> Like I said to Dwight, people will only demand real change when they 
are 
> punched square in the face by hard****p.  I think this day is coming 
soon 
> and will be brought about by the collapse of the social security 
system 
> resulting from the retirement of the baby boomers.  Then it will take 
a 
> leader that can clearly, effectively and truthfully explain the 
problems 
> and their solutions and promote them to act.  I also think this person 
> will have to be outside the two party system.

You've got a good point about social security.  I'm on the tail end, so 
I'll probably get what I'm expecting (or close to it).  But when younger 
people realize that they're paying into a system that won't return 
anything to them, maybe they'll actually force some change.

At any rate, I think the doomsday you speak of is right around the 
corner, at least fiscally.  Just a few observations:
* The housing market is in the crapper
* The service sector is way down
* Inflation is edging higher
* Return on investments is in the crapper due to the fed's rate cuts
* Banks and lenders are collapsing all over the place
* We're about to enter a big, fat recession

Better buckle your seat belt.