John S. wrote:
> On Mar 20, 3:08 pm, "Rulf" <dd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "John S." <fi****n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Mar 20, 2:58 am, "Jane Jian" <dd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> "Ed White" <cewhi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> My son's car is a 2006 Mustang V6 Coupe. He wants to upgrade the
>>>>> exhaust
>>>>> and headlights. Being an old stick in the mud I have been
>>>>> opposing the changes. Assuming I relent,, I'd like to hear
>>>>> recommendation for a better
>>>>> exhaust system and headlights. He wants duals and HID
>>>>> headlights. What should he look out for?
>>
>>>>> Ed
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>>>> louder exhaust are cop magnets - does not improve power, and
>>>> s****t/turbo mufflers can have a constant drone all the time when
>>>> driving the car.
>>
>>>> .
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>>> sorry but you are completely wrong about the performance... the
>>> S197 V6 muffler is incredibly restrictive! You can get a 10RWHP
>>> simply by swapping the stock muffler out for a better one,
>>> including a cheap GT take off muffler! This has been proven time
>>> and time again on the dyno....
>>
>>> That being said, going to duals doesn't give you much
>>> performance... may 2 or 3 RWHP... duals are more about look and
>>> sound.... no performance...
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>> You are not burning more fuel per unit time, so how could it gain
>> HP ?
>
> ???? Ummm.. You are removing a very restrictive muffler, which lets
> motor exhale easier... motor doesn't work as hard to exhale means
> more HP...
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>> 10 hp is hardly noticeable, and it is really about 2 to 3 HP gain,
>> which you could not accurately measure.
>
> I didn't say 10HP... I said 10RWHP! And that is NOTICEABLE...
> especially since you can get it that gain for $40 with a GT take-off
> muffler... Multiple people at multiple shops have shown this gain
> on a dyno...
>
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>> I would stick my money on good summer performance tires, they make
>> a huge difference.
>>
>
> ???? Tires don't make that big of a difference... not on an S197 V6
> until you address other suspension issues... like the extra mushy
> stock springs and shocks... and lack of a rear sway bar in non-pony
> package V6's...
>
>> Beware the sales pitch for a lot of the add on products, way over
>> hyped.
>
> That is very true... most over hyped product i've found so far is
> some of the CAI and the crank UD Pulley...
>
> Check out my website for some pics, dyno sheets, vids, reviews,
> etc.... www.v6john.com
I sup****t John's contention with regard to improved performance with a
less restrictive muffler. I found a Ford Racing Performance Products
M-5230-GTA muffler on eBay for 65 dollars delivered. It bolted in as
replacement with no problems, and was one of several transformative
changes in the V6. It's a bit louder than a standard GT take-off
muffler, pleasant at cruise, authoritative at wide-open throttle. I
sensed more powerful performance, and it gave a new dimension to the
driving experience. The V6 is quite peppy on its own, so unless you're
going to compete in some kind of racing, there's no real need to boost
power.
A second inexpensive addition/replacement is the GT take-off sway
bars. I drove my V6 convertible stock foe a few weeks, then added the
GT rear bar: BIG difference, but still an understeerer. Then
swapped-in the GT front bar: another big difference, and plenty good
for nearle everyone's purposes. the Pony Kit bars are good, but
smaller diameter.
There's my recommendation for actual, useful improvements for cheap:
GT take-off muffler, GT take-off sway bars. It's the way Ford should
have put them in to start with.
Plenty of other "mods" available, but those two should result in a
very satisfactory car. In addition to John's suggestion re: the
Collective, you might search
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/
and
http://www.mustangforums.com/
and
http://forums.stangnet.com/
for discussions of the questions you've
brought up. They've all been thoroughly "done" over the S197's
lifetime. There are dozens more Mustang forums, too.
One more note: among the high-volume take-off sellers, you'll likely
encounter one in particular who have good feedback ratings and plenty
of satisfied customers. I'm not one of them; you can see my experience
here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fyougitive/sets/72157603826441123/
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Frank ess
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