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Re: Compare global gasoline prices

by Michael Johnson <cds@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 25, 2008 at 06:21 PM

Columbotrek wrote:
> Michael Johnson wrote:
>> columbotrek wrote:
>>> Jan Andersson wrote:
>>>> And quit whining!  LOL
>>>> :D
>>>>
>>>>
http://bp2.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/SA56EjeEGVI/AAAAAAAAqAg/jrXRd2-RGII/s1600-h/GASOLINECARSCOOp2.jpg

>>>>
>>> Whats missing from your chart is the amount Europe's socialists 
>>> governments are adding to the price through taxes. Hydrocarbons are 
>>> not from dinosaurs. Check out NASA's re****t on the methane (natural 
>>> gas) oceans on Saturn's moon Titan. You have bought into a story spun 
>>> by those eager to control you. At least look in a little deeper.
>>
>> Forget methane deposits on Saturn.  Look at the vast methane deposits 
>> in our own oceans.  There is enough known methane in the oceans to 
>> supply our power needs for hundreds of years and think about the 
>> deposits we don't know about.  The reason we have a problem with fuel 
>> prices right now is due to the government's inability to mandate 
>> requirements to the oil companies and then give them the ability to 
>> meet the demand for energy by letting them drill wherever needed and 
>> build refineries to produce enough petrol products.
>>
>> Another place the government is letting us down is in leading the 
>> charge  (pun intended) in moving battery technology forward.  There is 
>> no reason that we can't have a viable electric car (aka plug in) 
>> available to the consumer.  A plug in with a 200-300 mile range would 
>> sell big.
> As much as plug in cars sounds cool.  The power company in California 
> can't even keep up with current demands without rolling blackouts.  How 
> will they be able to keep up when 30 millions cars need charging as 
> well?  At some point there needs to be a back lash against the 
> sustainability turds (who have no idea what is sustainable) and get us 
> moving towards energy independence in a way which raises our standard of

> living instead of lowering it.  I have tried riding the bus and it
sucks.

Public trans****tation isn't the solution for large parts of the country. 
  I have used Metro on occasion here in the Wa****ngton, DC area and find 
it to be convenient, reliable and cheap.  I agree though that riding a 
bus does suck.  We could be energy independent is the government and the 
energy producing companies would cooperate by formulating a plan and 
sticking with it.  The trouble, IMO, is the government.  Politicians are 
more concerned with maintaining or acquiring power than doing what is 
best for the country.

I just watched a show on PBS this morning that said the current 
electrical grid can handle 60 million electric vehicles.  The catch is 
the vehicles need to recharge during off peak hours.  This should not be 
an issue because most of them could be recharged overnight at slower 
rates.  Also, all of us won't be driving electric cars overnight.  It 
will be a slow process that will take 10-20 years which is plenty of 
time to make changes as needed to keep up with demand.  I don't see 
where electric power will replace diesel engines used in long haul 
trucks, trains, ****ps etc. for a very long time but they can work for 
passenger cars and light trucks.

As for California's electrical problems, it isn't anyone's fault but 
their own.  They want the electricity but don't want the power plants 
that come along with it located in their state.  California is 
controlled by the tree huggers and why the average person there that 
pays the state's tax bills lets them get away with it is beyond me. 
California is rapidly letting its economy become "Third World" in 
nature.  Go to almost any other part of the country and you won't find 
these type of problems because those areas don't let the 
environmentalists dictate energy policies.  Also, these areas aren't 
suffering from huge environmental problems from power plants.  I don't 
feel the least bit sorry for that state because they couldn't care less 
about the other 49 states that make up this union.
 




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Compare global gasoline prices
Jan Andersson <bugfuel  2008-04-23 08:34:18 
Re: Compare global gasoline prices
"dave" <myug  2008-04-24 16:50:46 
Re: Compare global gasoline prices
columbotrek <columbotr  2008-04-24 10:03:19 
Re: Compare global gasoline prices
Jan Andersson <bugfuel  2008-04-24 17:35:27 
Re: Compare global gasoline prices
Michael Johnson <cds@[  2008-04-24 18:07:08 
Re: Compare global gasoline prices
Columbotrek <columbotr  2008-04-25 09:28:16 
Re: Compare global gasoline prices
Michael Johnson <cds@[  2008-04-25 18:21:24 
Re: Compare global gasoline prices
Spike <veeger@[EMAIL P  2008-04-25 18:41:21 

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