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>> NetDoe wrote:
>> > "jim beam" <spamvortex@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> NetDoe wrote:
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>> >>>> NetDoe wrote:
>> >>>>> I have the Hanes manual, and the procedure seems
>> >>>>> straight-forward enough (I'm mechanically
>> >>>>> inclined).
>> >>>>> However, what are some "gotchas"? Also any recomms
>> >>>>> for an effective brake-bleeding kit that won't
>> >>>>> bleed my
>> >>>>> wallet?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -Zilla
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> no gotchas - it's very straightforward. a couple of
>> >>>> tips though:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1. fit the cylinder dry, then bleed at the brake
>> >>>> pipe junctions on
> the
>> >>>> cylinder before bleeding the rest of the system at
>> >>>> the calipers.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2. keep plenty of water handy in case of spillage.
>> >>>> never wipe brake
>> >>>> fluid off paintwork, the paint will come off with
>> >>>> it. simply wash
> with
>> >>>> water, then don't touch, even if you're tempted to.
>> >>>> and don't spill
>> >>>> water into an open brake reservoir!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> as for bleeding kits, don't waste any money on one -
>> >>>> use the neighbor
>> >>>> kid to help you, if you don't have one of your own.
>> >>>> you're bleeding
> a
>> >>>> new cylinder, so make sure you bleed properly - get
>> >>>> the pedal pressed
>> >>>> all the way to the floor to expel all the air.
>> >>> Ok thanks. I plan to drape plastic over the
>> >>> left-front fender, just to
>> >>> protect
>> >>> against spillage. Also the manual mentions bleeding
>> >>> the ABS modulator.
>> >>> Is that necessary?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> theoretically, yes. but reality is, especially if you
>> >> bleed at the m/c
>> >> first, you can get away without it. [you didn't pay
>> >> for this advice,
> so
>> >> use it at your own risk!]
>> >>
>> >
>> > So when you say "especially if you bleed at the m/c
>> > first" you imply bench-bleeding?
>>
>> no, do it with the m/c /in/ the car - bleed at the brake
>> line screws.
>> you'll find that once fitted, if you fill the reservoir
>> and simply wait,
>> most of the time, the m/c will bleed itself. once the
>> bubbles stop
>> coming out of the line screws, then get your assistant to
>> press down on
>> the pedal to ensure all air is expelled, then hold while
>> you tighten.
>>
>> and make sure you use a proper flare nut wrench. using a
>> standard open
>> end wrench is a great way to ruin the hex flats and make
>> life very
>> difficult for yourself.
>
> I see, that was #1 of your orig response. I planned to use
> a flare nut
> wrench.
>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Where is the bleeder valve for the ABS modulator, or is
>> > it obvious?
>> > My Hanes manual does not show it.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> you need to take the haynes manual, separate all the
>> pages and roll each
>> one into a crumpled ball, collect into a heap, douse with
>> gasoline, then
>> apply a source of ignition. after you've finished
>> dancing on the ashes,
>> go to helminc.com and buy the proper honda workshop
>> manual. it costs
>> more, but it helps you with questions just like this by
>> actually
>> answering them. the best tool you'll ever buy for that
>> vehicle.
>
> ...been ordered, waiting for it in the mail. In the
> meantime I ask questions
> and hope for answers.
Just my opinion, and not to throw out the baby with the
bathwater (read: Jim Beam's opinion on this with his other
occasionally helpful suggestions, when he's feeling like
being constructive, like all of us) but i think buying a
Helm manual is overrated for your 95 Accord and many 90s
Civics. So much information is freely available on the net
for Hondas this vintage. E.g. see the bulk of the FS manual
for your 95 Accord at
http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html.
Also,
Autozone has (for free) much info (specific to maintaining
and repairing the 95 Accord, and much from the FS manual
again) at its site.
Plus, I disagree with a number of people here that Haynes is
so awful. From what I have seen, I do prefer Chilton's (fact
is it reproduces much verbatim from the FS manual), and I
use mine often, but the Haynes will probably be of some
help.
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