Re: Carfax, Buying Used, & Craigslist.org

"jim beam" <spamvortex@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>>> Talking about active safety  - how about ABS?
>>>> Which model years/trims had it already installed, which not?
>>>
>>> do you know much about abs?  did you know that it doesn't necessarily 
>>> stop you any quicker, and can in fact /increase/ braking distances?  
>>> if you have an abs system on your car, open the owners manual and read
>>> what it says about that.
>> 
>> Don't be such arrogant!
> 
> what's a "such arrogant"?
> 
> 
>> I know exactly how ABS works and what are its effects on
driving/breaking.
> 
> you know how it works???  i'd love to read your explanation!

You are out of luck because you are not nice enough and you seem
to me to prefer staying with your ignorant point of view...

> btw, if you learned how to spell "b-r-a-k-i-n-g", you might be more 
> convincing.
 
Is English your native language and you think everybody is the same as
you? 
Or that if somebody who makes some language mistakes
it is some indication of his lack of technical knowledge?
Don't be such an arrogant American who thinks that if somebody
does not speak or write perfect English his must be dumb in
everything else...
 
>> In my opinion the car with ABS in general is safer than the one without

>> one.
> 
> what is your opinion based on exactly?  it's not facts about braking 
> distances because abs is not necessarily better in that regard.  you 
> /do/ know about abs systems, right?

Braking distance is not all what is im****tant in car safety.
Do some reading and maybe you will learn what you are missing.
 
>> Buying older cars you loose this feature and some others, too.
>> It is buyer choice, of course, but I considered it worth mentioning
>> together with your coment about missing sway bars in newer model.
>> 
>>> abs is /fantastic/ for people like my grandmother who will do 
>>> something like skid on the freeway, all 4 wheels locked, and sit there

>>> pressing the pedal as hard as she can while she has absolutely no 
>>> control of the vehicle whatsoever.  when i'm old enough to drive like 
>>> her, maybe i'll consider abs.  in the mean time, as long as i know 
>>> about cadence braking and friction coefficients, i'm quite happy with 
>>> standard brakes thanks.
>> 
>> Don't forget you are not talking about the car for yourself but for
Elle.
>> She might be somebody's grandmother :-) Or - just a driver little more 
>> educated in benefits of modern car safety systems than you...
>> 
>>>> Talking more about safety systems... how about air bags? Would you 
>>>> prefer driving with 20 years old airbag or 8 years old one?
>>>
>>> i prefer to have /no/ airbag!  if true driver safety were the concern 
>>> of gub'mint, roll cages, helmets and 5-point harnesses would be 
>>> mandatory, not airbags.  just like in race cars.
>> 
>> This just tells me how uneducated/ignorant driver you are.
> 
> buddy, helmets beat air bags every single time.
 
I am not your buddy.
 
>> Also, again I have to remind you that the choice is not yours but hers.
>> It is her car we are talking about. It is her decision if she wants car
>> with air bags or a death trap without one :-)
> 
> keep drinking the kool-aid.
> 
> 
>> 
>>>> Also, in case of unfortunate accident - how would you think 20 years
>>>> old body would perform compared to the 8 years old with no rust?
>>>
>>> mine's california and it has no rust.  and 8 years in the rust belt is

>>> no guarantee of integrity if you want to be really pedantic.
>> 
>> I am not talking about cosmetic rust but undercariage rust, ball
joints, 
>> etc.
> 
> i'm not talking cosmetic either - that's why i take the trouble to 
> specify "s-t-r-u-c-t-u-r-a-l" in the part you so carefully snipped but 
> didn't annotate.

There will be no structural rust on 8 years old car but it is a good
chance that 20 years old civic will not be strong enough to crash safely.

>> Once again, I have to remind you that your advices are addressed to
Elle.
>> Do you know where is she located? I do not recall her mentioning this.
> 
> then you've not been here very long.  or you don't know how to use 
> google.  or you're stupid and lazy.

I am here long enough to learn very well how arrogant and impolite you
are.