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Re: Carfax, Buying Used, & Craigslist.org

by jim beam <spamvortex@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 28, 2008 at 04:52 PM

Pszemol wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:LPydndNvWPZBO_vVnZ2dnUVZ_****nZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Talking about active safety  - how about ABS?
>>>>> Which model years/trims had it already installed, which not?
>>>>
>>>> do you know much about abs?  did you know that it doesn't 
>>>> necessarily stop you any quicker, and can in fact /increase/ braking 
>>>> distances?  if you have an abs system on your car, open the owners 
>>>> manual and read
>>>> what it says about that.
>>>
>>> Don't be such arrogant!
>>
>> what's a "such arrogant"?
>>
>>
>>> I know exactly how ABS works and what are its effects on 
>>> driving/breaking.
>>
>> you know how it works???  i'd love to read your explanation!
> 
> You are out of luck because you are not nice enough and you seem
> to me to prefer staying with your ignorant point of view...

oh, don't be a spoil-s****t!  tell us anyway!


> 
>> btw, if you learned how to spell "b-r-a-k-i-n-g", you might be more 
>> convincing.
> 
> Is English your native language and you think everybody is the same as 
> you? Or that if somebody who makes some language mistakes
> it is some indication of his lack of technical knowledge?
> Don't be such an arrogant American who thinks that if somebody
> does not speak or write perfect English his must be dumb in
> everything else...

honestly, i'm not as interested in your spelling as i am your ability to 
have an opinion on something you don't seem to know anything about.


> 
>>> In my opinion the car with ABS in general is safer than the one 
>>> without one.
>>
>> what is your opinion based on exactly?  it's not facts about braking 
>> distances because abs is not necessarily better in that regard.  you 
>> /do/ know about abs systems, right?
> 
> Braking distance is not all what is im****tant in car safety.

eh?  that's an incredibly bizarre statement!  personally, i'd rather 
avoid the accident than have one, and braking distance is a fundamental 
component of that.


> Do some reading and maybe you will learn what you are missing.

i read extensively.  you simply don't know what you don't know.


> 
>>> Buying older cars you loose this feature and some others, too.
>>> It is buyer choice, of course, but I considered it worth mentioning
>>> together with your coment about missing sway bars in newer model.
>>>
>>>> abs is /fantastic/ for people like my grandmother who will do 
>>>> something like skid on the freeway, all 4 wheels locked, and sit 
>>>> there pressing the pedal as hard as she can while she has absolutely 
>>>> no control of the vehicle whatsoever.  when i'm old enough to drive 
>>>> like her, maybe i'll consider abs.  in the mean time, as long as i 
>>>> know about cadence braking and friction coefficients, i'm quite 
>>>> happy with standard brakes thanks.
>>>
>>> Don't forget you are not talking about the car for yourself but for 
>>> Elle.
>>> She might be somebody's grandmother :-) Or - just a driver little 
>>> more educated in benefits of modern car safety systems than you...
>>>
>>>>> Talking more about safety systems... how about air bags? Would you 
>>>>> prefer driving with 20 years old airbag or 8 years old one?
>>>>
>>>> i prefer to have /no/ airbag!  if true driver safety were the 
>>>> concern of gub'mint, roll cages, helmets and 5-point harnesses would 
>>>> be mandatory, not airbags.  just like in race cars.
>>>
>>> This just tells me how uneducated/ignorant driver you are.
>>
>> buddy, helmets beat air bags every single time.
> 
> I am not your buddy.

i'd be your buddy if a helmet saved your life!


> 
>>> Also, again I have to remind you that the choice is not yours but
hers.
>>> It is her car we are talking about. It is her decision if she wants
car
>>> with air bags or a death trap without one :-)
>>
>> keep drinking the kool-aid.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>> Also, in case of unfortunate accident - how would you think 20 years
>>>>> old body would perform compared to the 8 years old with no rust?
>>>>
>>>> mine's california and it has no rust.  and 8 years in the rust belt 
>>>> is no guarantee of integrity if you want to be really pedantic.
>>>
>>> I am not talking about cosmetic rust but undercariage rust, ball 
>>> joints, etc.
>>
>> i'm not talking cosmetic either - that's why i take the trouble to 
>> specify "s-t-r-u-c-t-u-r-a-l" in the part you so carefully snipped but 
>> didn't annotate.
> 
> There will be no structural rust on 8 years old car

eh?  have you ever been up north?


> but it is a good
> chance that 20 years old civic will not be strong enough to crash
safely.

rubbish.  my 19 year old california civic is completely rust free.


> 
>>> Once again, I have to remind you that your advices are addressed to 
>>> Elle.
>>> Do you know where is she located? I do not recall her mentioning this.
>>
>> then you've not been here very long.  or you don't know how to use 
>> google.  or you're stupid and lazy.
> 
> I am here long enough to learn very well how arrogant and impolite you
are.

like i care!!!
 




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Carfax, Buying Used, & Craigslist.org
"Elle" <hond  2008-06-23 10:15:16 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-23 16:33:49 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-06-23 15:28:24 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-06-23 21:22:07 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-24 14:40:30 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-06-24 15:47:41 
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Larry in AZ <usenet2@[  2008-06-25 05:31:30 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-06-25 05:10:36 
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Larry in AZ <usenet2@[  2008-06-25 21:24:06 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-25 15:16:01 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-06-25 23:12:05 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-06-26 06:55:24 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-06-26 19:15:37 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-06-28 13:56:44 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-06-28 14:18:04 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-06-28 14:48:47 
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Tegger <tegger@[EMAIL   2008-06-28 21:44:27 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-06-28 14:51:25 
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Tegger <tegger@[EMAIL   2008-06-28 22:34:18 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-06-28 15:41:31 
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Tegger <tegger@[EMAIL   2008-06-28 23:21:13 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-06-25 05:47:07 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-25 15:39:29 
Re: Carfax, Buying Used, & Craigslist.org
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-06-25 23:14:55 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-25 15:09:02 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-06-24 18:36:39 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-25 15:07:20 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-06-25 22:54:07 
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"L Alpert" <  2008-06-26 18:18:36 
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Dave Garrett <dave@[EM  2008-06-27 16:26:44 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-06-27 14:35:53 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-27 18:37:38 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-06-27 16:55:17 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-27 19:07:23 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-27 18:32:51 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-06-27 21:26:27 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-28 07:12:38 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-06-28 07:25:33 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-28 15:19:13 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-06-28 13:39:29 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-28 18:19:02 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-06-28 16:33:22 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-06-28 14:02:16 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-28 18:16:28 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-06-28 16:52:42 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-29 07:58:23 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-06-29 08:58:07 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-29 15:04:27 
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Joe <joe@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-28 23:25:01 
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AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-06-29 03:13:12 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-06-29 09:00:54 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-06-29 15:06:36 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-06-29 14:15:48 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-07-13 05:46:03 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-13 20:42:36 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-07-14 07:17:00 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-14 10:11:06 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-07-14 08:28:41 
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AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-07-14 10:41:21 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-14 11:51:06 
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AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-07-14 13:26:41 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-14 13:56:33 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-07-14 19:30:38 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-15 09:41:05 
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Grumpy AuContraire <Gr  2008-07-15 23:29:35 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-16 01:21:03 
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AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-07-16 07:38:27 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-16 09:29:35 
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AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-07-16 10:03:52 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-16 14:32:01 
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AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-07-16 20:11:10 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-07-15 20:52:14 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-16 01:19:35 
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AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-07-16 07:54:01 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-16 14:33:39 
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AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-07-17 09:10:26 
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AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-07-18 08:48:34 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-16 09:41:05 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-16 09:35:39 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-07-16 22:43:38 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-14 11:27:33 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-07-14 09:31:18 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-14 12:35:44 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-07-14 10:37:29 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-14 12:55:01 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-07-14 14:57:02 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-14 17:05:43 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-07-14 15:28:26 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-14 17:42:53 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-07-14 15:48:04 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-14 19:16:18 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-07-14 19:24:46 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-15 09:44:59 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-07-15 20:51:50 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-16 01:17:05 
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jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-07-16 05:47:53 
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Grumpy AuContraire <Gr  2008-07-15 01:20:55 
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Tony Harding <ToHard@[  2008-07-19 06:04:18 
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Joe <joe@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-14 12:29:24 
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"Pszemol" <P  2008-07-14 12:46:21 
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Joe <joe@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-16 20:48:57 
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"Elle" <hond  2008-07-16 19:04:42 
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AZ Nomad <aznomad.3@[E  2008-07-16 21:14:52 
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